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Old 03-22-2015, 10:11 AM
 
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Sure there is. Illegal alien is in fact a distinction.
which doesn't matter to birth citizenship. jus soli.

if you believe differently then let steve king know his proposed bill isn't necessary.

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How so? Green cards? Or temporary work or student visas?
green cards. dad owned an electrical contracting business and mum was a writer/english teacher.
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Old 03-22-2015, 10:14 AM
 
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green cards. dad owned an electrical contracting business and mum was a writer/english teacher.
That's establishing a permanent domicile:
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"The steps to becoming a Green Card holder (permanent resident)..."
http://www.uscis.gov/greencard

You qualify.
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Old 03-22-2015, 10:16 AM
 
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I don't know why you seem to be confused.
because you guys are arguing that children currently born in the US to illegal immigrants aren't US citizens ( which isn't the case ).

i'm also confused by your claim that alien parents have to be legal and "hold allegiance to this country in order for their kids to qualify for birthright citizenship".

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Old 03-22-2015, 10:17 AM
 
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who's muddling? again, there currently is no legal distinction when it comes to birth citizenship..... hence the whole point of the proposed bill.
Yes, there is...."and" subject to the jurisdiction. Since the SC refuses to hear a case where illegal alien parents are involved that is the reason for the proposed bill. What's the SC afraid of? I think we know the answer to that one. Everyone seems to have to be PC in this country all the way up to the Supreme Court regardless of how it affects the well being of the citizens of this country.
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Old 03-22-2015, 10:17 AM
 
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because you guys are arguing that children currently born in the US to illegal innigrants aren't US citizens ( which isn't the case ).
They're only citizens by arbitrary "policy," not by federal law or by the Constitution.
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Old 03-22-2015, 10:20 AM
 
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Yes, there is...."and" subject to the jurisdiction. Since the SC refuses to hear a case where illegal alien parents are involved that is the reason for the proposed bill. What's the SC afraid of? I think we know the answer to that one.
SCOTUS has refused to hear and rule on a lot of important issues. They're rendering themselves essentially useless in what's increasingly turning our country from a Constitutional Republic into a dictatorship.

You can see it happening right before our very eyes.
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Old 03-22-2015, 10:21 AM
 
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because you guys are arguing that children currently born in the US to illegal innigrants aren't US citizens ( which isn't the case ).

i'm also confused by your claim that alien parents have to be legal and "hold allegiance to this country in order for their kids to qualify for birthright citizenship".
Again, it is only a policy/practice not based on Constitutional law. It needs to be clarified once and for all but since the SC lacks the will to do so a new law is being proposed. Many countries have changed their birthright citizenship laws so that at least one parent (sometimes both) have to be citizens of this country. Why do you want babies of illegal aliens (who violated our laws to get here) be given our birthright citizenship? Are you not aware that it is one of the incentives for them to keep coming here and the billions in tax dollars it is costing us not to mention making a mockery out of our citizenship?
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Old 03-22-2015, 10:22 AM
 
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What's the SC afraid of? I think we know the answer to that one.
i don't know. what is it?







sharks with lasers strapped to their heads?
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Old 03-22-2015, 10:24 AM
 
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They're only citizens by arbitrary "policy," not by federal law or by the Constitution.
then why the need for steve king's proposed bill?
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Old 03-22-2015, 10:25 AM
 
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If someone thinks this is a bad idea then most likely they already have skin in the game. (Read have broken the law itself or have family members that have already cheated the system).
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