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Old 03-22-2015, 10:26 AM
 
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Why do you want babies of illegal aliens (who violated our laws to get here) be given our birthright citizenship?
i've yet to express an opinion one way or another.

i'm just stating what the citizenship law currently is to births in the US.
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Old 03-22-2015, 10:26 AM
 
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then why the need for steve king's proposed bill?
You tell me. It shouldn't even be necessary if the federal government would actually uphold the Constitution.
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Old 03-22-2015, 10:28 AM
 
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then why the need for steve king's proposed bill?
To ban birthright for ANY kid born in the US unless at least 1 parent's a US citizen. It goes without saying that a law like that would be to stop FUTURE anchor kids from being citizens, NOT the ones already here.
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Old 03-22-2015, 10:30 AM
 
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Many countries have changed their birthright citizenship laws so that at least one parent (sometimes both) have to be citizens of this country.
there are massive variations on citizenship internationally when it comes to recognizing jus sanguinis and or jus soli.
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Old 03-22-2015, 10:34 AM
 
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To ban birthright for ANY kid born in the US unless at least 1 parent's a US citizen.
but aren't you saying that's currently the case?

please clarify: do you believe, under current law, a child born to illegal alien parents in the US is a US citizen?
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Old 03-22-2015, 10:35 AM
 
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You tell me.
because your wrong and for things to change would require a change in the law ( hence the proposed bill ).
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Old 03-22-2015, 10:47 AM
 
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because your wrong
I'm not wrong. I listed the entire legal history of the 14th Amendment, SCOTUS WKA ruling, Secretaries of State's nationality rulings, subsequent nationality law, and the Indian Citizenship Act of 1924. None of all that ever gives illegal aliens' children birthright citizenship. None of it.

Doing so is just a "policy" decision, nothing more. It's just as illegal as refusing to deport all illegals, which is another "policy" decision.
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Old 03-22-2015, 10:59 AM
 
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This is a waste of time. It isn't going to end up becoming actual legislation.

It will end up being used as a campaign issue in the general election, in all likelihood, though, but not by the GOP.


Don't underestimate the support of the people this will have.


That said acknowledging that Obamacare had almost nothing for support from the People...........
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Old 03-22-2015, 11:22 AM
 
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I'm not wrong.
well then you should let steve king know. he seems to be under the impression that there needs to be a change to the law.
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Old 03-22-2015, 11:23 AM
 
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Don't underestimate the support of the people this will have.
steve king proposed the exact same bill in 2010, what's different now?
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