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Old 03-22-2015, 11:29 AM
 
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well then you should let steve king know. he seems to be under the impression that there needs to be a change to the law.
It's a clarification of the law, because those who practice "policy" instead of actually upholding the Constitution and federal law need to be reined in.
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Old 03-22-2015, 11:32 AM
 
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It's a clarification of the law,....
then why wasn't it clarified in 2010 when king proposed it?
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Old 03-22-2015, 03:53 PM
 
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well then you should let steve king know. he seems to be under the impression that there needs to be a change to the law.
And I already told you that the SC refuses to test and rule on a case on birthright citizenship for children of illegal aliens therefore King has no choice but to keep pushing it by introducing new legislation on it. Too many PC congressmen though and in particular on the Dem's side because more minority foreigners and their offspring in this country deemed citizens means more votes for them.
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Old 03-22-2015, 04:00 PM
 
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there are massive variations on citizenship internationally when it comes to recognizing jus sanguinis and or jus soli.
So? More and more countries are not allowing birthright citizenship to kids born from a parent/parents in their country illegally. We should be doing likewise because it's a violation of our Constitution to make them so. Even if that weren't true it is an incentive for illegal aliens to come here and give birth on our soil and it is costing the taxpayer dearly. It makes no sense to grant their kids our birthright citizenship anyway as they have no right to be here as they are here in violation of our immigration laws.
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Old 03-22-2015, 04:10 PM
 
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there are massive variations on citizenship internationally when it comes to recognizing jus sanguinis and or jus soli.
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So? More and more countries are not allowing birthright citizenship to kids born from a parent/parents in their country illegally. We should be doing likewise because it's a violation of our Constitution to make them so. Even if that weren't true it is an incentive for illegal aliens to come here and give birth on our soil and it is costing the taxpayer dearly. It makes no sense to grant their kids our birthright citizenship anyway as they have no right to be here as they are here in violation of our immigration laws.
Like OldGlory said: more and more places are STOPPING birthright citizenship unless at least 1 parent's a citizen. Even Ireland put a stop to that scam.
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Old 03-22-2015, 04:46 PM
 
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More and more countries are not allowing birthright citizenship to kids born from a parent/parents in their country illegally.
good for them but until we change our laws ( again, the purpose of the proposed bill ) we will grant US citizenship to all those born in the US ( minus children of foreign diplomats and members of invading armies ).

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We should be doing likewise because it's a violation of our Constitution to make them so.
there is nothing in the constitution that prohibits granting citizenship based on jus soli.
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Old 03-22-2015, 04:48 PM
 
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Like OldGlory said: more and more places are STOPPING birthright citizenship unless at least 1 parent's a citizen.
once again, good for them, but i'm discussing what the current law is in the US.
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Old 03-22-2015, 05:16 PM
 
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This liberal's all in favor of ending birthright citizenship.
Great! Now are you going to continue to support politicians who aren't in favor of ending it? If you do then your being in favor of end it isn't really doing much.
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Old 03-22-2015, 05:34 PM
 
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once again, good for them, but i'm discussing what the current law is in the US.
No, you're not because what you are calling law is not a law at all and its been explained to you over and over why it isn't. The law specifically prohibits birthright citizenship to babies born from illegal aliens. Many links to prove it has been provided to you already. You just refuse to accept it and I really question why that is since you said your parents were here legally when you were born.
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Old 03-22-2015, 06:29 PM
 
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Women that give birth while visiting, or studying, in a foreign country can and should take their minor children back to their birth country when the visit/study is complete. I was registered as a birth for the purpose of citizenship in my parent's home country. They remained here for life as landed immigrants, so I did too.

Children should not be automatically granted citizenship of the country in which they are born. In fact, there is a Dutch Queen who was born in Canada, and she retained the citizenship of the country of her birth parents. That should be the legal precedent for women that give birth while visiting a foreign country.
The king of Thailand was born in Massachusetts where his parents were studying in Harvard (I think it was there). I don't believe he was considered American ever.
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