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Old 03-20-2015, 11:28 PM
 
Location: New Orleans, La. USA
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Steve King (R-Iowa) introduced H.R. 140 last week that would end birthright citizenship for children born to two illegal-alien parents on U.S. soil. The bill is cosponsored by eight other Representatives.
According to Rep. King, the Birthright Citizenship Act of 2015 would end the practice of illegal aliens giving birth in the United States in order for their children to gain American citizenship.

https://www.numbersusa.com/news/rep-...ht-citizenship
Is the republican hatred of non-whites so strong that republicans will support a law to not care for a child born on our soil?

I don't know where it came from, but a child born on American soil being a US citizen is part of the American spirit I inherited as a child.

What other changes to America's traditions do republicans want?
(Changes inspired by hatred of black presidents and hatred of non-white South Americans.)
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Old 03-21-2015, 01:50 AM
 
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Is the republican hatred of non-whites so strong that republicans will support a law to not care for a child born on our soil?

I don't know where it came from, but a child born on American soil being a US citizen is part of the American spirit I inherited as a child.

What other changes to America's traditions do republicans want?
(Changes inspired by hatred of black presidents and hatred of non-white South Americans.)
Guess what? There is no such race as "illegal alien". In the past ICE has deported illegals back to 189 different countries. 189 different countries covers every race, religion and ethnicity.

Most countries in this world do NOT grant citizenship to a child if the parents are in the country illegally. Nor do they put up with tourists who come here only to birth an American child. Why should we continue to allow this nonsense?

Being against illegal immigration is not "hatred". Every country in the world has immigration laws. Are you saying that every country in the world is filled with "hatred"?

Do you realize that it's the taxpayers who pick up the tab every time an illegal gives birth here? Not only that but said child is eligible for all sorts of government programs, thus the whole family benefits.

There is a saying "Charity starts at home". It means we take care of our own first and foremost. If there is anything left over, of course help others. We have plenty of poor Americans who need help and are not getting all that they need.
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Old 03-21-2015, 03:55 AM
 
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ANY person born in the US gets birthright. Why not diplomats kids?
diplomatic immunity.

illegal aliens are "subject to the jurisdiction" of the US ( as evidenced by the number in US prisons ) foreign diplomats ( and members of invading armies ) are not.

does anyone have the actual number of births in the US to two illegal alien parents?
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Old 03-21-2015, 03:56 AM
 
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Is the republican hatred of non-whites so strong that republicans will support a law to not care for a child born on our soil?

I don't know where it came from, but a child born on American soil being a US citizen is part of the American spirit I inherited as a child.

What other changes to America's traditions do republicans want?
(Changes inspired by hatred of black presidents and hatred of non-white South Americans.)
Please stop it. "Illegal alien" ain't a race. Sheesh!
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Old 03-21-2015, 06:52 AM
 
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Is the republican hatred of non-whites so strong that republicans will support a law to not care for a child born on our soil?

I don't know where it came from, but a child born on American soil being a US citizen is part of the American spirit I inherited as a child.

What other changes to America's traditions do republicans want?
(Changes inspired by hatred of black presidents and hatred of non-white South Americans.)
So you think that it is only non-whites here illegally and giving birth on our soil? What does race have to do with not wanting a mockery made of our citizenship by illegal immigration and birth tourism? This is not a Republican vs Democrat issues. It's an American issue. Hatred has nothing to do this issue nor does it have anything to do with having a half black president or hating those from south of our border. Apparently you don't know that those south of our border enjoy the highest numbers of legal immigration into our country? Our president is obligated to respect and enforce our immigration laws. He's not doing so. If he were completely white I would feel the same way as would most Americans. Bush (the white guy) tried this amnesty fiasco and he was stopped also.
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Old 03-21-2015, 06:55 AM
 
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diplomatic immunity.

illegal aliens are "subject to the jurisdiction" of the US ( as evidenced by the number in US prisons ) foreign diplomats ( and members of invading armies ) are not.

does anyone have the actual number of births in the US to two illegal alien parents?
No, illegal aliens are not subject to our full jurisdiction but they like even tourists are subject to obeying our laws while on our soil. That's not the same thing. Your clue is "and" subject to our jurisdiction and it is the qualifier for birthright citizenship. Illegal alien parents do not qualify.
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Old 03-21-2015, 07:04 AM
 
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If an amendment were required, I would dare anyone to fight it's progress and survive reelection,
Unlikely, the Democrat fighting it will gain the votes of other Democrats that support it. This will not be a priority issue with many other Democrats that don''t support it. Same thing happens on both sides of the aisle, the tail wags the dog in Washington.
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Old 03-21-2015, 09:38 AM
 
Location: NJ
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Annie1004"Just think, we will no longer be subject to the "but we can't separate families" mantra. That, and calling those against illegals "racists." "

Except this bill stands no shot at becoming signed legislation.

It's delusional, even if one likes this bill, to actually foresee it becoming law. In all likelihood, this will not even get a full vote in the Senate.
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Old 03-21-2015, 10:31 AM
 
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Annie1004"Just think, we will no longer be subject to the "but we can't separate families" mantra. That, and calling those against illegals "racists." "

Except this bill stands no shot at becoming signed legislation.

It's delusional, even if one likes this bill, to actually foresee it becoming law. In all likelihood, this will not even get a full vote in the Senate.
Don't count your chickens just yet. If someone told us that a man born in 1961 whose part Black would be POTUS in 2015; back then few of us would've believed it since Jim Crow was still the law till 1965.

IMHO birthright WILL be going away for any US born kid unless at least 1 parent's a US citizen. Even Ireland cancelled theirs about 10 years back.
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Old 03-21-2015, 10:42 AM
 
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Would that even be constitutional?
Yes. The 14th Amendment was never intended to grant birthright citizenship to anyone born in the U.S. owing allegiance to any other sovereignty. It's all there in the Congressional Record. And we know this is true because Native Americans born in the U.S. weren't granted birthright citizenship until the Indian Citizenship Act of 1924 was passed, long after the 14th Amendment was ratified. Why was that 1924 law needed to grant Native Americans birthright citizenship? Because even though they were born in the U.S., they owed allegiance to one or more foreign sovereignties (their Indian Nation/s) instead of just to the U.S.

Primary Document: Indian Citizenship Act
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