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Old 03-21-2015, 06:26 PM
 
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Exactly! It has merely been an erroneous practice. According to the 14th Amendment they are not citizens. No one seems to have the guts to address this issue.....
"Based upon the language of Article II, Section 1, Clause 4 and the guidance provided by Wong Kim Ark, we conclude that persons born within the borders of the United States are “natural born Citizens” for Article II, Section 1 purposes, regardless of the citizenship of their parents."

- ankeny v daniels


http://www.in.gov/judiciary/opinions...120903.ebb.pdf
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Old 03-21-2015, 06:31 PM
 
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ILLEGAL alien ain't a "race".

Obama: I voted for the dude in 2008, refused to vote for him again in 2012. Race had NOTHING against my NOT wanting him back in power. BTW: I'm a white dude.

IF illegal aliens are so "needed" to do farm work; which I call BS on, they why are MOST illegals living in the big cities where there ain't any kind of farm near by?
They live in the cities mostly because 97% of them aren't picking crops. They are doing jobs that Americans have always been willing to do for a fair wage. I suppose the millions that are doing construction work for example are doing so because the builders can't find Americans to do those jobs? Lol! Who do these people think they are kidding? It's all about the greed of the employers period, and they need to be held accountable for their illegal hiring practices while their illegal workforce needs to be deported.
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Old 03-21-2015, 06:34 PM
 
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"Based upon the language of Article II, Section 1, Clause 4 and the guidance provided by Wong Kim Ark, we conclude that persons born within the borders of the United States are “natural born Citizens” for Article II, Section 1 purposes, regardless of the citizenship of their parents."

- ankeny v daniels

http://www.in.gov/judiciary/opinions...120903.ebb.pdf
Wong Kim Ark was about parents in this country legally even though they weren't citizens. You can't use that as a gauge for parents here illegally. You are taking things out of context. As we keep telling you the parents have to hold allegiance to this country in order for their kids to qualify for birthright citizenship....thus "and" subject to the jurisdiction which is the qualifier.
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Old 03-21-2015, 06:37 PM
 
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Wong Kim Ark was about parents in this country legally even though they weren't citizens. You can't use that as a gauge for parents here illegally. You are taking things out of context. As we keep telling you the parents have to hold allegiance to this country in order for their kids to qualify for birthright citizenship....thus "and" subject to the jurisdiction which is the qualifier.
Agreed but some illegal alien fans TRY to claim Mr Wong's story as their own.
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Old 03-21-2015, 06:50 PM
 
Location: New Orleans, La. USA
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Please stop with your race baiting nonsense. President Bush (the white guy) tried to push an amnesty also but there was so much outrage that he never got it. No, illegal aliens are not a part of our culture and the reason for the objection today is because it has reached critical mass now in numbers, job losses, reduced wages, higher taxes increase in crime and overcrowded conditions in our schools, jails and hospitals. Many illegal aliens commit ID theft or tax evasion to work here. As I said in previous post only 3% of illegal aliens are picking crops and there are unlimited visas for legal, foreign crop pickers. Farmers that use illegal aliens are doing so to increase their profits while they break our laws to do so. They pass on the huge social costs of these illegal aliens to "we" the taxpayer.

Succession isn't an illegal immigration topic nor is buying up guns and desiring our immigration laws to be enforced certainly has nothing to do with racism or hate. You attacking white Americans better look in the mirror when you use that word. Illegal aliens aren't "immigrants" and they aren't all from So. America either. We want all illegal aliens gone out of our country. Both illegal immigration and outsourcing are depleting job opportunities for Americans and we want them both admonished.
Americas highest paying jobs manufacturing TV's, cell phones, and other electronics have been moved to Asia. Why isnt there a forum section dedicated to those jobs being lost?

Why is more attention given to immigrants taking jobs picking crops and washing dishes, than attention given to our childrens most desirable jobs being moved to Asia?

Answer: Because the topic of illegal immigrants is not inspired by economics or our childrens job future, its inspired by hatred of any law passed by a black president, and inspired by white republicans who hate seeing South Americans living in their cities.
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Old 03-21-2015, 06:52 PM
 
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Americas highest paying jobs manufacturing TV's, cell phones, and other electronics have been moved to Asia. Why isnt there a forum section dedicated to those jobs being lost?

Why is more attention given to immigrants taking jobs picking crops and washing dishes, than attention given to our childrens most desirable jobs being moved to Asia?

Answer: Because the topic of illegal immigrants is not inspired by economics or our childrens job future, its inspired by hatred of any law passed by a black president, and inspired by white republicans who hate seeing South Americans living in their cities.
Please quit deflecting: this is the ILLEGAL immigration Forum. Sheesh!

Those jobs that CAN'T be outsourced like farming and construction are being given to illegal aliens.

BTW: ILLEGAL alien ain't a race. Your race card don't work anymore.
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Old 03-21-2015, 06:55 PM
 
Location: Jamestown, NY
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It's def constitutional IMHO since the US born kids of foreign diplomats DON'T get birthright and their parents are here legally. There's NO reason to allow the US born kinds of illegal alien parents to get birthright instead.

Read the US Constitution!

The Fourteenth Amendment defines citizenship:

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All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
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Old 03-21-2015, 07:00 PM
 
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Read the US Constitution!

The Fourteenth Amendment defines citizenship:
ILLEGAL aliens are NOT subject to our laws and rights unless talking about arrest and deportation, the same goes for their US born anchors. That's 1 of those laws that's badly written.
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Old 03-21-2015, 07:09 PM
 
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"Based upon the language of Article II, Section 1, Clause 4 and the guidance provided by Wong Kim Ark, we conclude that persons born within the borders of the United States are “natural born Citizens” for Article II, Section 1 purposes, regardless of the citizenship of their parents."

- ankeny v daniels

http://www.in.gov/judiciary/opinions...120903.ebb.pdf
State court hacks. LOL. There was no guidance in the WKA decision that give citizenship to children born here who's parents don't have a permanent domicile here. Illegal aliens can't have a permanent domicile here. They're in the country illegally and shouldn't even be here at all.
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Old 03-21-2015, 07:12 PM
 
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Wong Kim Ark was about parents in this country legally even though they weren't citizens. You can't use that as a gauge for parents here illegally.
Bingo.
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