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Old 03-21-2015, 07:06 PM
 
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Read the US Constitution!

The Fourteenth Amendment defines citizenship:
Here's your clue and the qualifier..."AND" subject to the jurisdiction. It has been explained over and over that illegal alien parents are not subject to our full jurisdiction and neither are their offspring. Therefore by law they aren't citizens of this country by birth. It has merely been a PC "practice" for far too long.
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Old 03-21-2015, 07:17 PM
 
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Please quit deflecting: this is the ILLEGAL immigration Forum. Sheesh!

Those jobs that CAN'T be outsourced like farming and construction are being given to illegal aliens.

BTW: ILLEGAL alien ain't a race. Your race card don't work anymore.
I've already pointed out to this poster that Bush (the white president) tried the same thing and he got chastised for it also. So the race card just doesn't work here. It's not only white Republicans who desire the enforcement of our immigration laws and for valid reasons but these types have nothing but the race card anyway. Are all other countries racist for having immigration laws also? We want "all" illegal aliens removed from our country not just those from south of our border but then here came the race card out again anyway.
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Old 03-21-2015, 07:26 PM
 
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Wong Kim Ark was about parents in this country legally even though they weren't citizens. You can't use that as a gauge for parents here illegally. You are taking things out of context. As we keep telling you the parents have to hold allegiance to this country in order for their kids to qualify for birthright citizenship....thus "and" subject to the jurisdiction which is the qualifier.
When I read the first post, I was all in. I immediately thought of the many women from Russia, India, China ... so on ... whom I know came here for the sole purpose of giving birth. If they arrived in the country for, say, academic reasons, the first thing they did was support a husband, and get pregnant. One woman is due in a couple of months, and she's talking about going straight back to work after the birth of the baby. She seems to have no maternal instinct to stay home with the baby during it's infancy.

Then I realized that I'm a first generation citizen of parents that never took citizenship, so I think the law proposal needs to be modified to differentiate between people that immigrated and raised a family, and those that arrived to give birth, or those that entered on a student visa, invited a man from home to visit, got pregnant, and who then claim that cannot go home because they don't want to leave the child behind. My parents would not have left me behind if they had chosen to return to their birth country.
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Old 03-21-2015, 07:50 PM
 
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When I read the first post, I was all in. I immediately thought of the many women from Russia, India, China ... so on ... whom I know came here for the sole purpose of giving birth. If they arrived in the country for, say, academic reasons, the first thing they did was support a husband, and get pregnant. One woman is due in a couple of months, and she's talking about going straight back to work after the birth of the baby. She seems to have no maternal instinct to stay home with the baby during it's infancy.

Then I realized that I'm a first generation citizen of parents that never took citizenship, so I think the law proposal needs to be modified to differentiate between people that immigrated and raised a family, and those that arrived to give birth, or those that entered on a student visa, invited a man from home to visit, got pregnant, and who then claim that cannot go home because they don't want to leave the child behind. My parents would not have left me behind if they had chosen to return to their birth country.
It doesn't matter what their intent is in regards to illegal aliens. Their offspring should not be granted birthright citizenship for the reasons stated. It's nonsense that they can't take their minor kids back to the homeland with them.
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Old 03-21-2015, 08:04 PM
 
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It doesn't matter what their intent is in regards to illegal aliens. Their offspring should not be granted birthright citizenship for the reasons stated. It's nonsense that they can't take their minor kids back to the homeland with them.
Women that give birth while visiting, or studying, in a foreign country can and should take their minor children back to their birth country when the visit/study is complete. I was registered as a birth for the purpose of citizenship in my parent's home country. They remained here for life as landed immigrants, so I did too.

Children should not be automatically granted citizenship of the country in which they are born. In fact, there is a Dutch Queen who was born in Canada, and she retained the citizenship of the country of her birth parents. That should be the legal precedent for women that give birth while visiting a foreign country.
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Old 03-21-2015, 10:57 PM
 
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Wong Kim Ark was about parents in this country legally even though they weren't citizens. You can't use that as a gauge for parents here illegally. You are taking things out of context. As we keep telling you the parents have to hold allegiance to this country in order for their kids to qualify for birthright citizenship....
you contradicted yourself here. you claim that alien parents have to be here legally for their child to be a citizen.... then claim that the parents "have to hold allegiance to this country" ( which legal resident aliens wouldn't ) in order for the child to have birthright citizenship.
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Old 03-21-2015, 11:00 PM
 
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State court hacks. LOL.
and yet the birthers didn't appeal the case to the SCOTUS. pity.
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Old 03-22-2015, 12:35 AM
 
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Please quit deflecting: this is the ILLEGAL immigration Forum. Sheesh!

Those jobs that CAN'T be outsourced like farming and construction are being given to illegal aliens.

BTW: ILLEGAL alien ain't a race. Your race card don't work anymore.
But someday soon a robot will be made to pick crops, and those farm jobs will be lost. Robots could take 1/3 of American jobs in the next 10 years.
Smart robots will take over a third of jobs by 2025, Gartner says


If republicans don't care about robots and Asians taking our jobs, why is there so much (anger) about South American immigrants taking our jobs?

Answer: Because white republicans don't care about jobs, they just hate non-whites coming to America.
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Old 03-22-2015, 01:00 AM
 
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Face it, we need workers to work their butts off to pay for all the social security and health care we are going to consume. And if we have to have foreign workers, I would rather have Christian Mexicans than Muslim Arabs or Africans each and every day of the week.
Nonsense.^

What you are proposing is nothing more than a Ponzi scheme. What happens when those immigrants age? Do we bring in even more? In other words, keep growing the population? How many people will be too many for you? 1 billion? 2 billion? We are running out of buildable land and potable water.
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Old 03-22-2015, 01:01 AM
 
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Answer: Because white republicans don't care about jobs, they just hate non-whites coming to America.
Why do you insist on repeating this lie?
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