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[DontH8Me]

Originally Posted by Exedous

Why look for personal and attack? the word bigot, even though I've never been called it on here, is a personal attack.

I heartily suggest you re-read my post again, and tell me how you drew your conclusion from the post you quoted. Really, I am not interested in discussing issues with anyone when we apparently aren't even on the same page.

[Exedous]

Originally Posted by DontH8Me

I heartily suggest you re-read my post again, and tell me how you drew your conclusion from the post you quoted. Really, I am not interested in discussing issues with anyone when we apparently aren't even on the same page.

You were debunking all those terms blacknight used. "bidiot" is a "bigot" and an "idiot". I'm referring to bigot.

[DontH8Me]

Originally Posted by Exedous

You were debunking all those terms blacknight used. "bidiot" is a "bigot" and an "idiot". I'm referring to bigot.

Then you have proven my point - I was discussing something in blacknight's post, and you are counter-questioning me with your own references.

And again, this is the third time I must ask you to re-read my post - I didn't make any attempt to "debunk" the term libidiots, I merely stated that I hadn't seen it used. It is not part of my vocabulary so I can hardly be accused of using it myself.

Are you starting to get it now?

[Exedous]

Originally Posted by DontH8Me

Then you have proven my point - I was discussing something in blacknight's post, and you are counter-questioning me with your own references.

And again, this is the third time I must ask you to re-read my post - I didn't make any attempt to "debunk" the term libidiots, I merely stated that I hadn't seen it used. It is not part of my vocabulary so I can hardly be accused of using it myself.

Are you starting to get it now?

Are you cereal? What do you call this?

Originally Posted by DontH8Me

Illegal aliens is actually a legal term. It is not a slur. It defines someone's status in our country.
Unpatriotic is not exactly a slur either - it's an adjective by the way.
I have not read a single post with the term libidiots - but I can assure you I have never used the word either.

Please point me to where I have been disrespectful, since you are implying that I am not worthy of respect as I have not given it.

[blacknight04]

Originally Posted by DontH8Me

Illegal aliens is actually a legal term. It is not a slur. It defines someone's status in our country.
Unpatriotic is not exactly a slur either - it's an adjective by the way.
I have not read a single post with the term libidiots - but I can assure you I have never used the word either.

Please point me to where I have been disrespectful, since you are implying that I am not worthy of respect as I have not given it.

My post wasn't referring to you specifically but i don't think it okay either to call someone an illegal immigrant when there is no proof they are just because you don't agree with them.

It is also offensive to call someone unpatriotic just because one doesn't agree with their point of view.

As for the libidiot phrase, i read it a couple of days ago somewhere on here.

My main point of the post is, the civility has to be on both sides of the issue. You can't expect one side to look down upon the other side and call them things we might fight offensive but cry and whine when we describe some actions or posts as xenophobic or bigoted.

[DontH8Me]

Originally Posted by Exedous

Are you cereal? What do you call this?

Thank you for proving my posts are consistent, and you appear to be the one with a problem.

Quote #1: I have not read a single post with the term libidiots - but I can assure you I have never used the word either.

Quote #2: I didn't make any attempt to "debunk" the term libidiots, I merely stated that I hadn't seen it used.

[DontH8Me]

Originally Posted by blacknight04

My post wasn't referring to you specifically but i don't think it okay either to call someone an illegal immigrant when there is no proof they are just because you don't agree with them.

It is also offensive to call someone unpatriotic just because one doesn't agree with their point of view.

As for the libidiot phrase, i read it a couple of days ago somewhere on here.

My main point of the post is, the civility has to be on both sides of the issue. You can't expect one side to look down upon the other side and call them things we might fight offensive but cry and whine when we describe some actions or posts as xenophobic or bigoted.

OK, here's how I see it. It is indeed wrong to call someone an illegal alien, if in fact there is no evidence of it. OTOH, if someone is one, then that's what they are.

It is wrong for someone to call someone unpatriotic for a different point of view. OTOH, if that person is opposed to upholding the law (we are a nation of law) then I can see how they would be deemed unpatriotic.

It is just as wrong to call someone a bigot because they are opposed to illegal activity. OTOH, if someone is delivering bigoted rhetoric, then they just might be one.

I still don't think that someone who is for the enforcement of our law can be called out for race issues - this is a political issue. If someone slanders a specific race on this forum I am the first one (or one of the first) to call them out for their misbehavior. (see my reaction to a post where someone vehemently stated "we hate Mexicans" if you don't believe me.)

The reason I posted again to this thread is because the name calling seems to have started up again. You are free to correct me if I am wrong.

[blacknight04]

Originally Posted by DontH8Me

OK, here's how I see it. It is indeed wrong to call someone an illegal alien, if in fact there is no evidence of it. OTOH, if someone is one, then that's what they are.

It is wrong for someone to call someone unpatriotic for a different point of view. OTOH, if that person is opposed to upholding the law (we are a nation of law) then I can see how they would be deemed unpatriotic.

It is just as wrong to call someone a bigot because they are opposed to illegal activity. OTOH, if someone is delivering bigoted rhetoric, then they just might be one.

I still don't think that someone who is for the enforcement of our law can be called out for race issues - this is a political issue. If someone slanders a specific race on this forum I am the first one (or one of the first) to call them out for their misbehavior. (see my reaction to a post where someone vehemently stated "we hate Mexicans" if you don't believe me.)

The reason I posted again to this thread is because the name calling seems to have started up again. You are free to correct me if I am wrong.

I can concur.

[sassyone]

This was a direct message from Greatday that went to my email, I thought naDear sassyone,

You have received a new private message at City-Data Forum from Greatday, entitled "You are getting quite a reputation".

To read the original version, respond to, or delete this message, you must log in here:
http://www.city-data.com/forum/private.php

This is the message that was sent:
***************
You and your posts are getting lots of attention - below is one of 5 messages I got, just yesterday, about your posts - and, this one is the .... "polite" one


*Sassyone is either mildly retarded, ADD, is a troll, or just plain text-book DUMB. I prefer to ignore her and hope she goes away-her posts in immigration add nothing at all *


Here is another:

*How old is this Sassyone? 10? 12? The posts are very immature*
me calling was not allowed on the forum.

[mkfarnam]

Originally Posted by sassyone

This was a direct message from Greatday that went to my email, I thought naDear sassyone,

You have received a new private message at City-Data Forum from Greatday, entitled "You are getting quite a reputation".

To read the original version, respond to, or delete this message, you must log in here:
http://www.city-data.com/forum/private.php

This is the message that was sent:
***************
You and your posts are getting lots of attention - below is one of 5 messages I got, just yesterday, about your posts - and, this one is the .... "polite" one


*Sassyone is either mildly retarded, ADD, is a troll, or just plain text-book DUMB. I prefer to ignore her and hope she goes away-her posts in immigration add nothing at all *


Here is another:

*How old is this Sassyone? 10? 12? The posts are very immature*
me calling was not allowed on the forum.

I don't quite understand your point here. Is there more to this?

Please explain your reason for this.