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Old 01-16-2008, 02:43 PM
 
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So many people that live in America do not know how to speak English and it is hurting our country. Yes, I know English speaking skills are required before someone can be a citizen but many people are LEGALLY in America as temporary residents, Green Card Holders or on a variety of special guest worker Visas and do not know a word of English.

It seems to me that there are enough people on Earth that would have a good knowledge of english that should be allowed instead to come here than someone who does not know a word of our language. I understand there is over 300 million people on earth that do not live in America that speak fluent English, many of them would love to come here.

Your thoughts about an english requirement for all immigrants other than tourists.???
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Old 01-16-2008, 02:45 PM
 
Location: Colorado
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Yes, maybe not fluently( since that does take more time) but enough to function well.
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Old 01-16-2008, 02:54 PM
 
Location: Pinal County, Arizona
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Yes - at least enough to communicate in english
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Old 01-16-2008, 02:56 PM
 
Location: Land of 10000 Lakes + some
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I don't think you have to worry. When someone really wants something, they learn how to talk.
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Old 01-16-2008, 02:58 PM
 
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Well, we can't require them to speak English at the home, or even amongst each other on the job, but we CAN refuse to accomodate their language in the public or retail realm.

Any civil rights lawyers out there that want to try a test case where some speaker of an obsure foreign language sues the government for accomodating only one or two other language groups besides English and not their own?
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Old 01-16-2008, 03:00 PM
 
Location: Small patch of terra firma
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Your thoughts about an english requirement for all immigrants other than tourists.???
No, I do not think it should be required. But I also don’t think full accomodation by the government to an immigrants native language needs to be done either.
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Old 01-16-2008, 03:01 PM
 
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I was going to make a "cute" sarcastic comment--but, OK, yes, why not? Simple, second-grade level, basic 'survival" English-- It may not ever HAPPEN--it will surely be attacked by the ACLU---but really, I don't see why it should be too much to expect. We don't require "polished", finely-tuned English---but why not a few simple phrases? Something that can be easily learned in a short time..sounds like a plan to ME...
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Old 01-16-2008, 03:07 PM
 
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Any civil rights lawyers out there that want to try a test case where some speaker of an obsure foreign language sues the government for accomodating only one or two other language groups besides English and not their own?
It seems to me I posted something on this recently. Honestly, in "ACLU-speak", if you can accomodate twelve million or so Spanish speakers, why not me and my three friends, who speak an obscure dialect from some tributary of the Amazon ?.....because there aren't ENOUGH of us?---hmmmm---doesn't sound very 'fair' to me (at least in the ACLU-type definition of 'fair")
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Old 01-16-2008, 05:56 PM
 
Location: SW Kansas
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Yes, I believe all immigrants should be proficient in english. If we quit accomodating them, they will quit expecting accomodation. I'd start with all government assistance forms should be in english, filled out on site, and no translators allowed!
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Old 01-16-2008, 06:05 PM
 
Location: Pa
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Yes absolutely. They have made the choice to live here to migrate to our nation. As long as they don't speak the language they limit their own ability to assimilate into our culture. This also creates an undue burden.
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