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Old 04-23-2015, 01:01 AM
 
Location: West Los Angeles
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Not sure where you are coming from here. Several administrations from both parties have been guilty of not solving this illegal immigration problem we have. It isn't only those on the right that hire illegal aliens but the left also.

Are you happy with Obama and the Democrats wanting to give amnesty to millions of them? How is that a good thing? We all know what Obama has done already by EO giving them temporary amnesty with work permits. Seems like your beefs belong more with the Democrats than the Republicans.
I'm tired of Republicans incessantly claiming that they're more American than Democrats, and that Democrats are relatively "unpatriotic". Indeed, the Democratic leadership is un-American and unpatriotic, but the Republican leadership is just as un-American and unpatriotic. The full swath of treason committed by the Republican leadership against most Americans extends beyond the scope of this forum, but immigration is one the issues. Yes, there's a smattering of Republicans who recite the same tired prattle about "securing the border", but no Republicans I'm aware of want to stop immigration into the U.S. to benefit middle and lower income Americans. They instead just spew the boiler plate lip service about having people go to the back of the line to become citizens, but not one of them asks why there's a line in the first place when immigration provides no benefits whatsoever to middle and low income Americans.
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Old 04-23-2015, 08:23 AM
 
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I'm tired of Republicans incessantly claiming that they're more American than Democrats, and that Democrats are relatively "unpatriotic". Indeed, the Democratic leadership is un-American and unpatriotic, but the Republican leadership is just as un-American and unpatriotic. The full swath of treason committed by the Republican leadership against most Americans extends beyond the scope of this forum, but immigration is one the issues. Yes, there's a smattering of Republicans who recite the same tired prattle about "securing the border", but no Republicans I'm aware of want to stop immigration into the U.S. to benefit middle and lower income Americans. They instead just spew the boiler plate lip service about having people go to the back of the line to become citizens, but not one of them asks why there's a line in the first place when immigration provides no benefits whatsoever to middle and low income Americans.
Actually, there are many Republicans in congress and American citizens who are conservatives and even non-conservatives that want illegal immigration ended. Senator Jeff Sessions comes to mind just for one.

Then there are a few Republicans that are all in a frenzy over offending the Hispanic voter by not supporting an amnesty which is ludicrous because only a small number of Hispanics vote compared to non-Hispanics. They would continue to vote Democrat anyway as most minorities do because of the socialism of the that party.
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Old 04-23-2015, 03:58 PM
 
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Actually, there are many Republicans in congress and American citizens who are conservatives and even non-conservatives that want illegal immigration ended. Senator Jeff Sessions comes to mind just for one.
Yes, but they do not want to stop immigration into the U.S. Look, if you want to end illegal immigration, just streamline the immigration process, and presto, we no longer have an illegal immigration problem. So where does that leave us?
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Old 04-23-2015, 04:12 PM
 
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Yes, but they do not want to stop immigration into the U.S. Look, if you want to end illegal immigration, just streamline the immigration process, and presto, we no longer have an illegal immigration problem. So where does that leave us?
Uh; with our HIGH unemployment rates; there's NO need to "streamline" anything except deportation of any illegal found.
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Old 04-23-2015, 05:52 PM
 
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Yes, but they do not want to stop immigration into the U.S. Look, if you want to end illegal immigration, just streamline the immigration process, and presto, we no longer have an illegal immigration problem. So where does that leave us?
Why would they want to stop legal immigration into our country? Illegal immigration isn't "immigration" at all. Streamline? What does that mean? We have quotas in place for legal immigration so that we limit the number coming in and for good reasons. Are we to abandoned those sane policies? What does streamlining have to do with that? Is streamlining allowing anyone in here that wants to come here? Surely you jest. Just as long as there are more foreigners that want to come here than we can accommodate there will always be an illegal aliens problem unless we secure the border and remove all of the incentives for them to come here. Another amnesty is the worse thing we can do.
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Old 04-23-2015, 10:49 PM
 
Location: Alaska
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Ramos replied that “it’s immigration,” because “Latinos cannot see beyond immigration right now. It’s a very simple concept, Sean — people won’t vote for a candidate who will deport your father, your friends, your colleagues, and your students.”

Sean Hannity gets schooled on immigration: “People won’t vote for a candidate who will deport your father” - Salon.com

Mr Ramos: I WILL vote for the candidate who WILL deport your illegal alien relatives. Too; try saying THAT in Mexico; you and your people WILL be locked up if there illegally.
That's why they should all be put on a bus and sent home. ALL of them.
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Old 04-24-2015, 12:27 AM
 
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The large % of guys I worked with were Hispanic. My wife is Hispanic, as are obviously my in-laws. None of them, or any Hispanic I know, has any use for illegals and would love to them all sent back.
They refer to illegals as "Wets", which isn't a team of endearment...
So do the Hispanics I know. But, have you noticed the difference in the two groups? The legal Hispanics don't have 8 kids, are proud to be a part of the community, keep their homes/yards maintained, get involved with their childrens school. while the second group live about 3 families to a home, have 8 kids, let them run rampant, have loud music playing all night long. Why not, most of them don't have to work. Their homes need work on them, and their children are usually dirty. I never could figure that one out. The police are always being called on them.

I was at WalMart the other night and the lady checking me out was Hispanic. I'm 99.9% sure she's legal. She speaks English without an accent, and her name is Michele. So, it was really hot in there, and she said "How are you", and I told her I was hot, so hot that my head was perspiring and my head was wet, and she said "Oh, I know, I'm wetter than an illegal trying to cross the border!"
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Old 04-24-2015, 02:04 AM
 
Location: West Los Angeles
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Why would they want to stop legal immigration into our country?
Because it will further undermine middle and lower income wages, not to mention it can irreparably destroy our culture. In other words, the same reasons the brakes were put on immigration in the 1920's.
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Old 04-24-2015, 06:20 AM
 
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Yeah, ole Jeb said that coming here illegally is an act of love.
I HATE Hellary Clinton with a passion and while I have voted republican in every election since 1972 I will vote Hellary if it comes down to Hellary vs Jeb. Better the crook and lack of any morals you know than the one you don't.

They both make my stomach churn.

That said I doubt either will make the nomination.

Walker in 2016!
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Old 04-24-2015, 08:04 AM
 
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Because it will further undermine middle and lower income wages, not to mention it can irreparably destroy our culture. In other words, the same reasons the brakes were put on immigration in the 1920's.
Legal immigration is ok just as long as they aren't replacing Americans on their jobs just like illegal aliens are doing. We should also diversify our legal immigration numbers and make sure they aren't going to be a burden to our country rather than a benefit. We also need to keep our population growth in check. The more people we have here the more demands there are for everything.
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