English/Spanish Bilingual PREFERRED (immigration debate, discrimination, race, issues)

[TKramar]

Originally Posted by flburgos

go to school and learn spanish it would only be an advantage for you.why make something negative out of something that would benefit you?less qualified than you?now would that be because their hispanic?because that's what it sounds like.

Which "Spanish" should he learn? Different cultures use different words for the same thing. As a matter of fact, I've seen two different translations for the same term on an appliance box. Which is "more correct"? I guess it depends on who you ask for a translation?

Just as ONE example..."conejos" to a Mexican is a slang term for "muscles"...ask anyone else, and they'll think you're talking about rabbits!

[Dave Rosarito]

Originally Posted by Grasonville

Using your logic then since Mexico borders the United States then ALL Mexicans should speak English in addition to Spanish - and since the United States borders Mexico AND Canada we should speak English, Spanish and French (for Quebec)?

All Mexican kids go to school, and part of their studies includes 2 years of english (I think it is 2 years, used to be, might be more today)

[TKramar]

Originally Posted by flburgos

Then stop talking about just the spanish language and talk about all languages.I have met plenty of illegals that are not mexican and that's seems to be missed on this forum.All i hear is spanish this and spanish that let's open it up to all illegals,

Why is it that you RARELY hear them ask on the phone to press 2 for French, or German, or Russian, or Chinese? Aren't those languages accessible to people in the U.S.?

I have no problem with them speaking Spanish...I've learned Spanish to better relate. But, since I can speak French and German as well, what if I wanted to converse with a French or German speaker at a business? Because perhaps one of those languages would make me feel more comfortable, and better understood?

[Dave Rosarito]

Originally Posted by ArizonaBear

Here in the USA; the laguage is English---------not Spanish or any other tongue.



Citizen of Mexico=Mexican
Citizen of Canada=Canadian
Citizen of Brazil=Brazilian
Citizen of the USA=American

I don't get your "logic". It would only follow that a Citizen of the United States of America would be Unitedstatesians. Estadounidense is the Spanish name for a US citizen . . .

[Dave Rosarito]

Originally Posted by TKramar

Which "Spanish" should he learn? Different cultures use different words for the same thing. As a matter of fact, I've seen two different translations for the same term on an appliance box. Which is "more correct"? I guess it depends on who you ask for a translation?

Just as ONE example..."conejos" to a Mexican is a slang term for "muscles"...ask anyone else, and they'll think you're talking about rabbits!

Sure, you ever try to understand a Welshman? Or how about a US Southerner. New Englanders have there own version as well as Australians and them other northerners, eh?

Well, in this part of Mexico, conejos are rabbits, or are you talking about a Mexican American (US) slang?

[Fair and Balanced]

Originally Posted by TKramar

Which "Spanish" should he learn? Different cultures use different words for the same thing. As a matter of fact, I've seen two different translations for the same term on an appliance box. Which is "more correct"? I guess it depends on who you ask for a translation?

Just as ONE example..."conejos" to a Mexican is a slang term for "muscles"...ask anyone else, and they'll think you're talking about rabbits!

The "Universal" Spanish is Castellano Spanish from Spain.

Same thing in America, People in Boston have "words" different from people in the deep South. But, we all know how to speak "proper" English.

[Fair and Balanced]

Originally Posted by Dave Rosarito

I don't get your "logic". It would only follow that a Citizen of the United States of America would be Unitedstatesians. Estadounidense is the Spanish name for a US citizen . . .

Right People of Latin AMERICA, are also Americans. Good point.

[ArizonaBear]

Originally Posted by faina00

Citizen of Mexico=Mexican
Citizen of Canada=Canadian
Citizen of Brazil=Brazilian
Citizen of the USA=American

Again, the ignorance is baffling.....Any of those other countries could be called "Americans" as for North Americans or South Americans.

Do you not call French, British, Dutch, "Europeans"?[/quote]

I am 'ignorant'?

Then you better explain what a citizen of the USA is referred to as.

[ArizonaBear]

Originally Posted by faina00

If we were better educated, then yes, we would speak Spanish and French as well, as they do in many other countries.

Many, many Mexicans, Central/South Americans speak English. The EDUCATED ones! Unfortunately the educated people in this country are not as educated as them because they only speak English. In most other countries, children and adult learn school (even in kindergarten to speak more than one language)

Blame it on the educational system, blame it on laziness or blame it on the pompous bunch who refuse to learn!

There is no real incentive for me to learn either French or Spanish.

Outside of Latin America/Spain; the Spanish language is not widely used.

As for French; it is diminishing in status as it is. Besides; Quebec's Francophones only number about 4-6 million people.

OTOH: English is the lingua franca of the world. That may/will change in time admittedly--------not so long ago French was significant and prior to that, Latin.

[flburgos]

Originally Posted by ArizonaBear

There is no real incentive for me to learn either French or Spanish.

Outside of Latin America/Spain; the Spanish language is not widely used.

As for French; it is diminishing in status as it is. Besides; Quebec's Francophones only number about 4-6 million people.

OTOH: English is the lingua franca of the world. That may/will change in time admittedly--------not so long ago French was significant and prior to that, Latin.

Problem solved just stay away from people that don't speak english and stay away from arby's.