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Old 03-27-2008, 03:49 PM
 
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Originally Posted by ArizonaBear View Post
Again, the ignorance is baffling.....Any of those other countries could be called "Americans" as for North Americans or South Americans.

Do you not call French, British, Dutch, "Europeans"?
I am 'ignorant'?

Then you better explain what a citizen of the USA is referred to as.[/quote]
Yes...we do call them Europeans.

Just like we call Chinese and Koreans, Asian.

 
Old 03-27-2008, 04:19 PM
 
Location: Rosarito Beach
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Originally Posted by Fair and Balanced View Post
But, we all know how to speak "proper" English.
Boy, if you'd meet my friend from London, you would see the error in your thinking
 
Old 03-27-2008, 04:53 PM
 
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By and large the most opportunities available in this country are for English speaking individuals. A corporations (or a nations) response to growing business is to accomodate those who they serve, do business with, and profit from. The positions we are referring to are clearly designed to communicate effectively with large constituent of people. Most spanish speaking citizens or non-citizens do speak English however; may not all have the command of the language; much in the same way anyone else would when it is not their first. Look at companies "accomodating" or "catering" to them as the right thing to do. When you are "catered to" through marketing products or surveys, it is a company's way of getting to know their consumer base and to serve them better. Essentially, it is very similar with the exeption of the race component.

The growth of the Hispanic/Latino population, immigration debates and race are at the core of these issues-call it what it is. Historically, whenever there is a minority that is positioned to become a majority, people feel uncomfortable with it and find issues that they would never have had if circumstances stayed the same. We are afterall, the land of opportunity. The root of this debate is closeted racism and it's as old as this nation.

As for learning spanish "to work in my own country," you don't have to! Just be qualified enough to get opportunity that doesn't requirement it-simple. As for being fluent in Japanese (I used this language as an example in the previous post), many native people there speak English but clearly it would be an advantage to speak that country's first language to live and work there (same for Latinos). Demographically speaking, we clearly are in proximity to many spanish speaking countries and as one of the greatest nations in the world (and made up of nothing but immigrants), the US happens to be an obvious choice.

I especially love an interview from many years ago where Donald Trump said not to be "mad at the next guy" who comes to America and builds a business and seeks opportunity. It has been here for all of us to benefit from. What we do with the time and opportunity is up to us. If you are born here, have citizenship and speak the Kings English your advantage is tremendous. For those that come here, work as hard (sometimes twice as hard to overcome prejudice and racism), have built the charachter that has allowed them to perserve and get the job that the next person was saying they were "too good for", or flat out wasn't qualified for. Again, I am not Latino but I will tell you that I have made it my business to be the best at what I do and in two separate industries, went from entry level to management and executive level. I welcome competition and applaud those who succeed-i'll always be right next to them. At the end of the day, jobs and opportunities most often go to the best candidate for the job. There will always be room for top talent. Should you be such person, you should have no problem moving ahead in the land of opportunity.
 
Old 03-27-2008, 05:02 PM
 
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By and large the most opportunities available in this country are for English speaking individuals. A corporations (or a nations) response to growing business is to accomodate those who they serve, do business with, and profit from. The positions we are referring to are clearly designed to communicate effectively with large constituent of people. Most spanish speaking citizens or non-citizens do speak English however; may not all have the command of the language; much in the same way anyone else would when it is not their first. Look at companies "accomodating" or "catering" to them as the right thing to do. When you are "catered to" through marketing products or surveys, it is a company's way of getting to know their consumer base and to serve them better. Essentially, it is very similar with the exeption of the race component.

The growth of the Hispanic/Latino population, immigration debates and race are at the core of these issues-call it what it is. Historically, whenever there is a minority that is positioned to become a majority, people feel uncomfortable with it and find issues that they would never have had if circumstances stayed the same. We are afterall, the land of opportunity. The root of this debate is closeted racism and it's as old as this nation.

As for learning spanish "to work in my own country," you don't have to! Just be qualified enough to get opportunity that doesn't requirement it-simple. As for being fluent in Japanese (I used this language as an example in the previous post), many native people there speak English but clearly it would be an advantage to speak that country's first language to live and work there (same for Latinos). Demographically speaking, we clearly are in proximity to many spanish speaking countries and as one of the greatest nations in the world (and made up of nothing but immigrants), the US happens to be an obvious choice.

I especially love an interview from many years ago where Donald Trump said not to be "mad at the next guy" who comes to America and builds a business and seeks opportunity. It has been here for all of us to benefit from. What we do with the time and opportunity is up to us. If you are born here, have citizenship and speak the Kings English your advantage is tremendous. For those that come here, work as hard (sometimes twice as hard to overcome prejudice and racism), have built the charachter that has allowed them to perserve and get the job that the next person was saying they were "too good for", or flat out wasn't qualified for. Again, I am not Latino but I will tell you that I have made it my business to be the best at what I do and in two separate industries, went from entry level to management and executive level. I welcome competition and applaud those who succeed-i'll always be right next to them. At the end of the day, jobs and opportunities most often go to the best candidate for the job. There will always be room for top talent. Should you be such person, you should have no problem moving ahead in the land of opportunity.
another good point....If a person that spoke no english was hired for a job than that means we don't have enough english speaking applying for jobs in our country.Why would a company hire somenoe that does not speak english over someone more qualified?Plain and simple,they don't want to work.
 
Old 03-27-2008, 05:52 PM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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Originally Posted by Fair and Balanced View Post
I am 'ignorant'?

Then you better explain what a citizen of the USA is referred to as.
Yes...we do call them Europeans.

Just like we call Chinese and Koreans, Asian. [/quote]

If asked what my nationality is; I state American, pure and simple.

As for my ethnicity; I look like a Nordic White yet my actual background is 1/2 Hungarian.
 
Old 03-27-2008, 07:48 PM
 
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Nobody need to know what your background is, we are here to discuss
BILINGUAL-PREFERRED people who apply for employment...
Please stick with the topic. Thanks.
 
Old 03-27-2008, 08:18 PM
 
Location: Rosarito Beach
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Originally Posted by sheluvsfootball View Post

I especially love an interview from many years ago where Donald Trump said not to be "mad at the next guy" who comes to America and builds a business and seeks opportunity. It has been here for all of us to benefit from. What we do with the time and opportunity is up to us. If you are born here, have citizenship and speak the Kings English your advantage is tremendous. For those that come here, work as hard (sometimes twice as hard to overcome prejudice and racism), have built the charachter that has allowed them to perserve and get the job that the next person was saying they were "too good for", or flat out wasn't qualified for. . . . I welcome competition and applaud those who succeed-i'll always be right next to them. At the end of the day, jobs and opportunities most often go to the best candidate for the job.

!!!! Other than the football thing, which we can discuss, are there any other issues?? Such as boyfriend, husband or both?
 
Old 03-27-2008, 08:36 PM
 
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Default Need Spanish & Cuban Heritage to work in So. FL

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As for learning spanish "to work in my own country," you don't have to! Just be qualified enough to get opportunity that doesn't requirement it-simple.
Sheluvsfootball,
Obviously, you've never tried to get a job in Miami. There is a HUGE discrimination against "Anglos" there and they use the Spanish requirement to eliminate those people. It's a FACT. It's like a "good old boy" network, but they are Cuban.
 
Old 03-27-2008, 08:44 PM
 
Location: Rosarito Beach
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Sheluvsfootball,
Obviously, you've never tried to get a job in Miami. There is a HUGE discrimination against "Anglos" there and they use the Spanish requirement to eliminate those people. It's a FACT. It's like a "good old boy" network, but they are Cuban.
Gee, I'm a "gringo" and worked in Miami area for 6 months (guess they couldn't find any Miamians to do the job, regardless of origin), lived in Lauderdale, made friends/worked with many "Cubanos" / vive Cafe Cubano!!! Only place to visit in Florida is Key West!!!
 
Old 03-28-2008, 10:49 AM
 
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go to school and learn spanish it would only be an advantage for you.why make something negative out of something that would benefit you?less qualified than you?now would that be because their hispanic?because that's what it sounds like.
you have special rights, now in my own home I need to learn spanish to communicate with your people. [mod cut] this is the usa !

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