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01-17-2008, 10:44 AM
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Social Security/Medicare for illegals
How on Earth is this possible?
"If you are not a U.S. citizen or a lawfully admitted alien who has lived in the U.S. continuously for a five-year period, please contact Social Security at 1-800-772-1213 for your Medicare enrollment and eligibility."
Link below;
Medicare.gov - Medicare Eligibility Tool (Eligibility Questions)
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01-17-2008, 10:48 AM
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01-17-2008, 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Benicar
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I'm not surprised.
But, what is "lawfully admitted alien" mean? If you admit it, you're supposed to be deported. What a bunch of garbage our government is forcing on us.
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01-17-2008, 11:13 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cribster
How on Earth is this possible?
"If you are not a U.S. citizen or a lawfully admitted alien who has lived in the U.S. continuously for a five-year period, please contact Social Security at 1-800-772-1213 for your Medicare enrollment and eligibility."
Link below;
Medicare.gov - Medicare Eligibility Tool (Eligibility Questions)
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Research it more and you’ll see the requirements. Per the last updated Overview of Immigrant Eligibility for Federal Programs, under Medicare it states:
Eligible only if:
• Lawfully present, and eligibility for assistance is based on authorized employment
http://www.nilc.org/pubs/guideupdate...gms_032505.pdf
Remember the Medicare link states “and eligibility”.
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01-17-2008, 11:20 AM
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Taipan
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LAWFULLY - as in LEGAL - as in YOU GOT PERMISSION
Totally opposite of ILLEGAL
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01-17-2008, 11:35 AM
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I'm curious about fraud in Medicare enrollment. If we have people here unlawfully using other people's social security numbers for the purpose of employment, what's to stop them from using the same fraudulent means to enroll in Medicare?
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01-17-2008, 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Hawkeye48
I'm curious about fraud in Medicare enrollment. If we have people here unlawfully using other people's social security numbers for the purpose of employment, what's to stop them from using the same fraudulent means to enroll in Medicare?
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Absolutely nothing. Medicare fraud is happening by legal immigrants, US Citizens, and illegal immigrants. But illegal immigrants are not legally eligible for Medicare. However money for fraud enforcement is low.
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01-17-2008, 11:59 AM
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In NJ there is a five year wait if they entered the country after a certain date.
Medicare, Social Security isn't the only thing illegals are getting, SSI as well..........
Why do you think ADHD/ADDhas become such a popular condition (sorry to those that deal with REAL cases of ACHD/ADD. ) Get your unruly kid diagnosed and collect 500.00 a month.
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01-17-2008, 12:22 PM
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because I'm beautiful
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Originally Posted by madicarus2000
Absolutely nothing. Medicare fraud is happening by legal immigrants, US Citizens, and illegal immigrants. But illegal immigrants are not legally eligible for Medicare. However money for fraud enforcement is low.
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They may not be legally eligible for Medicare, but then again, they aren't here in this country legally to begin with, and they are most definitely collecting it.
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01-17-2008, 12:28 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by madicarus2000
Research it more and you’ll see the requirements. Per the last updated Overview of Immigrant Eligibility for Federal Programs, under Medicare it states:
Eligible only if:
• Lawfully present, and eligibility for assistance is based on authorized employment
http://www.nilc.org/pubs/guideupdate...gms_032505.pdf
Remember the Medicare link states “and eligibility”.
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Illegal aliens have hundreds of groups that help them procure phoney ID, not to mention stolen ID.
We need to get e-verify up and runnning and I would hope that government agencies as well as employers will use it. It's not the total solution but it will be a good start.
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