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Old 01-20-2008, 10:27 AM
 
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No it isn't number one, I never said it was either. But it has polled in the top 5 and sometimes at top three.I don't know where they get non issue. Wait until the pol the border states!!!!!!!
I'm just waiting for McCain and Guliani to win the border states. I wonder what the excuse will be then?
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Old 01-20-2008, 10:29 AM
 
Location: Colorado
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I'm just waiting for McCain and Guliani to win the border states. I wonder what the excuse will be then?
hahahahahahahaha! McStain, as they call him in AZ ( i lived there I know) doesn't stand a chance same in Texas, where I have friends, they hate him too. Guiliani is a terd and they know it.
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Old 01-20-2008, 10:29 AM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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I'm just waiting for McCain and Guliani to win the border states. I wonder what the excuse will be then?
This border state is chasing off the illegals as we speak!
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Old 01-20-2008, 10:30 AM
 
Location: Colorado
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How did the media shut them out? How about the american public didn't buy or care for what they were selling.
At what point did they EVER air these people, oh yea, when they dropped out!!!! At debates, they were ignored by the media. Fair and balanced my a**!!!!!!!!!
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Old 01-20-2008, 10:34 AM
 
Location: Colorado
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I think you will find this in most border states

"Nevada Entrance poll results also showed that the economy and illegal immigration ranked first and second on the minds of GOP voters, with 38 percent and 34 percent, respectively".
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Old 01-20-2008, 10:41 AM
 
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Hmm...lets see:

Mike Huckabee = benefits for children of illegal immigrants

John McCain = supports amnesty

Hillary Clinton = supports amnesty

Mitt Romney = used to support amnesty. Had illegal aliens work in his mansions (he flip-flops so much, its hard to determine his "real" position)

Barack Obama = supports amnesty.

From what I gather, Fred Thompson is the only candidate who is against amnesty, and he came in 3rd place in South Carolina!

yeah I agree. Immigration is a non-issue
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Old 01-20-2008, 10:43 AM
 
Location: Pinal County, Arizona
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yeah I agree. Immigration is a non-issue
Then, may I suggest you tell that to the citizens of the States of Arizona and Oklahoma and California (among others) that Illegal immigration (not simply Immigration) is a "non issue".

I believe the citizens of those states will ..... "take exception" to your assertion
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Old 01-20-2008, 10:45 AM
 
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Just as I predicted here, sure enough immigration is turning out to be a non issue in the Presidential races. Nobody is even talking about and now John McCain- a Republican who is liberal on immigration- is running ahead of the pack and could snare the nomination in a few weeks. And both of the Democrats are liberal on it too with Hillary being the more liberal one of the bunch and she will probably wrap up the nomination next Saturday in South Carolina.
I have stated all along that all the noise on this issue was being made by a few people. In fact very few people as it turns out. The vast majority of Americans do not hate the Mexicans and recognize the great benefits these people bring to our country and its economy.
The MSM and the corporations are selecting the candidates. It's pretty obvious that it will be Clinton vs McCain. Both big money globalists.
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Old 01-20-2008, 10:48 AM
 
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No, it is not about personal attacks or people disgreeing with me. It is about telling it like it is and the fact that some people refuse to see the other side and refuse to tell the whole truth.

Thanks for agreeing with me.
So in another words, if people disagree with you, they are not "telling the whole truth and refusing to see the other side". Nevermind that they might have different experiences or perspective or god forbid, they just disagree with you!

As for personal attacks, in another thread you've already stated how "I've shown what kind of person I really am" and then I have seen you make several personal attacks on other posters' character simply because they are not spouting what you want to hear.

But bringing this back on topic, I think part of the reason why immigration has become a "non issue" as some posters call it is because it's a touchy subject that the media is skirting around carefully. It's easy to fall into either side of the extreme when you're trying to appeal to the general population. If you report something against immigration, you risk being called a racist or someone who doesn't embrace diversity. If you try to say anything other than "lets drive all of them out", you risk being called un-American, blind-sighted, and whatever else people who are vile by nature can think of.

IN addition to this all, there are other topics that are more "coverage worthy" so to speak. Healthcare, social security, the economy---the things that directly affect people every time they make a doctor's visit, make a trip to the grocery store, or look over their paycheck stub. Thus, in typical political fashion, all the candidates rush to embrace the flashy subjects with questionable solutions that may or may not even make a dent in the problem.
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Old 01-20-2008, 10:48 AM
 
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At what point did they EVER air these people, oh yea, when they dropped out!!!! At debates, they were ignored by the media. Fair and balanced my a**!!!!!!!!!
Anyone who believes the people are selecting candidates any longer is just living in an illusion.

Yes -- people want all jobs sent out of the country and third world peons brought in to take whatever jobs are left. Yes -- the people want wages to drop further in this country -- and that's why the people are choosing Bush-Clinton-Bush-Clinton.

Sure. The country has been taken away from the American people. It is now whatever the global big money corporations want. There is no difference between the "neo-lib" Clintons and the "neo-con" Bushes.
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