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Old 01-24-2008, 11:32 AM
 
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I think that statement can go both ways, it can be used towards anti-illegals as well. "Life is mean spirited. Grow up. Get over it."
Uh...no.

The anti-illegal argument is not a fallacious appeal to emotion. Our argument is on solid ground.

Saying a law is "mean spirited" is a childish appeal to emotion. The words "mean spirited" tell us nothing. Indeed, a law that is put into place because the federal government does not enforce its own laws is a profound waste of time and other resources. Furthermore, any and all laws are "mean spirited" toward someone. Like all those poor alcoholics who are prohibited from driving. Why do you hate alcoholics, anyway? Remember, alcoholics are human beings. They're only trying to feed their families.
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Old 01-24-2008, 02:09 PM
 
Location: California
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Uh...no.

The anti-illegal argument is not a fallacious appeal to emotion. Our argument is on solid ground.

Saying a law is "mean spirited" is a childish appeal to emotion. The words "mean spirited" tell us nothing. Indeed, a law that is put into place because the federal government does not enforce its own laws is a profound waste of time and other resources. Furthermore, any and all laws are "mean spirited" toward someone. Like all those poor alcoholics who are prohibited from driving. Why do you hate alcoholics, anyway? Remember, alcoholics are human beings. They're only trying to feed their families.
I'm referring to the lower middle class Americans saying that the illegals are stealing their jobs. "Life is mean spirited, deal with it."
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Old 01-24-2008, 02:23 PM
 
Location: Colorado
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I'm referring to the lower middle class Americans saying that the illegals are stealing their jobs. "Life is mean spirited, deal with it."
Nope, now if we lost our job to another American, yep you could say that. But illegals, no I can say they need to get the hell out, they want mean I will show them mean.
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Old 01-24-2008, 04:11 PM
 
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Nope, now if we lost our job to another American, yep you could say that. But illegals, no I can say they need to get the hell out, they want mean I will show them mean.
The most mean spirited people are those that think illegals are just ok for our country and they seem to show utter disrespect for the citizens of this country.
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Old 01-24-2008, 07:22 PM
 
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if all the pro illegals on here were not mexican or anchor babies themselves.. we wouldn't even be having to clarify how bad the illegals are hurting Americans....
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Old 01-24-2008, 07:24 PM
 
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if all the pro illegals on here were not mexican or anchor babies themselves.. we wouldn't even be having to clarify how bad the illegals are hurting Americans....
I really can't understand why it is that they hate our country as they do, especially since they get all they get from us.
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Old 01-24-2008, 07:26 PM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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I really can't understand why it is that they hate our country as they do, especially since they get all they get from us.
The word 'ungrateful' comes to mind-------those naturalized American citizens who had to jump through hoops are truly appreciative of living here in the USA.
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Old 01-24-2008, 07:27 PM
 
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The word 'ungrateful' comes to mind-------those naturalized American citizens who had to jump through hoops are truly appreciative of living here in the USA.
Yes, most certainly are.
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Old 01-25-2008, 02:50 AM
 
Location: Helena, Montana
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I'm referring to the lower middle class Americans saying that the illegals are stealing their jobs. "Life is mean spirited, deal with it."
That's what they're already told, by corrupt politicians funded by big business, bleeding heart liberals, and pro-illegals who feel that if someone lost their job to an illegal, they were to stupid and uneducated to deserve that job in the first place. What sickens me about all these people saying such things, who are American citizens, they feel that only uneducated Mexican ILLEGALS deserve to support and feed their families, but not the uneducated class of AMERICANS. Illegal Mexicans come first.
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