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Old 12-10-2009, 11:26 AM
 
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You can't be serious with this statement.
Quite serious. How else do you explain why neither the parents nor the kids under this scenario don't speak English.
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Old 12-10-2009, 11:42 AM
 
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Quite serious. How else do you explain why neither the parents nor the kids under this scenario don't speak English.
There is unfortunately no need for the parents to do so.
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Old 12-10-2009, 11:51 AM
 
Location: Minneapolis, MN
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Quite serious. How else do you explain why neither the parents nor the kids under this scenario don't speak English.
Well, it's probably safe to assume they are first generation immigrants. The fact that they don't speak English says absolutely nothing about their immigration status. I know plenty of legally documented immigrants who didn't speak English when they first came to the country, including my wife. Now I'm not saying that the parents in the article are legal, but it is completely unfair to make the assumption that they aren't simply based on their lack of proficiency in the English language. Your ignorance on this subject is pretty shocking.
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Old 12-10-2009, 12:07 PM
 
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Well, it's probably safe to assume they are first generation immigrants. The fact that they don't speak English says absolutely nothing about their immigration status. I know plenty of legally documented immigrants who didn't speak English when they first came to the country, including my wife. Now I'm not saying that the parents in the article are legal, but it is completely unfair to make the assumption that they aren't simply based on their lack of proficiency in the English language. Your ignorance on this subject is pretty shocking.
No, your ignorance is what is shocking but then again it is more about denial with you rather than actual ignorance. How many legal immigrants do you think come here with their entire immediate families at the same time?
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Old 12-10-2009, 12:10 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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No, your ignorance is what is shocking but then again it is more about denial with you rather than actual ignorance. How many legal immigrants do you think come here with their entire immediate families at the same time?
Not to mention, arriving in a van with 20 other “immigrants.”
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Old 12-10-2009, 12:10 PM
 
Location: Minneapolis, MN
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No, your ignorance is what is shocking but then again it is more about denial with you rather than actual ignorance. How many legal immigrants do you think come here with their entire immediate families at the same time?
Ok, so let me get this straight...I'm in denial because I don't automatically assume that because somebody doesn't speak English than they must be an illegal immigrant?

I'm telling you right now, you can get into alot of trouble for making those assumptions, it's not a smart thing to do.
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Old 12-10-2009, 12:31 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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If the parents can't speak English then they must be here illegally. I don't consider this to be a heart warming story under the circumstances.
Unless they are a refugee (and there aren't that many) it would appear that most likely they are here Illegally.

Check this out, San Diego just laid off 48 positions called "Liasons". Basically these people were English to Spanish interpreters for Illegal Aliens. Such wise use of tax dollars with a flat broke City.
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Old 12-10-2009, 12:33 PM
 
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Ok, so let me get this straight...I'm in denial because I don't automatically assume that because somebody doesn't speak English than they must be an illegal immigrant?

I'm telling you right now, you can get into alot of trouble for making those assumptions, it's not a smart thing to do.
No, try to comprehend what I said, will you? I said if an ENTIRE family doesn't speak Engish it is highy suspect that they are all here illegally.
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Old 12-10-2009, 01:04 PM
 
Location: Minneapolis, MN
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No, try to comprehend what I said, will you? I said if an ENTIRE family doesn't speak Engish it is highy suspect that they are all here illegally.
This is what you said, direct quote:

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If the parents can't speak English then they must be here illegally.
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Old 12-10-2009, 01:08 PM
 
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This is what you said, direct quote:
It was stated in the article already that a translater was being used in the schools which implies that the students were English learners. When you take into account that the parents didn't speak English either I only mentioned the parents at that time. When you take into account that the entire families didn't speak English it puts up a red flag that more than likely the entire family is here illegally. Of course there is also the possibility that these students were anchor babies and their illegal parents only spoke Spanish in the home and their anchors were learning English in school. Is that clear enough for you?

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