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Old 01-24-2008, 05:33 PM
 
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This is a no-brainer. Farmers should provide employment for foreign labor in their countries of origin instead of trying to maintain a third world industry in a civilized nation on the backs of tax payers. Cut the $20 billion a year in subsides and force "farmers" to compete on the "free" market like everyone else.

I have long wondered why it is that growers seem to think that government should guarantee them a supply of cheap labor. Where do they get off expecting - nay, DEMANDING - the government supply them with ANYTHING?

These so called "farmers" are among the biggest proponents of so-called "free trade". And yet, they CANNOT compete on the free and open market without significant concessions from the government that compromises national security and sovereignty and astronomical welfare payments to the tune of over $20 billion each and every year - and are demanding yet MORE every year.


It's enough to make you want to launch maltov cocktails into every farm field you pass by.

Farmers Begging Again (http://www.capitalpress.info/main.asp?SectionID=67&SubSectionID=619&ArticleID=3 8486&TM=76638.08 - broken link)
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Old 01-24-2008, 05:40 PM
 
Location: Colorado
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They need to get modernized and quit being so dependent.
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Old 01-24-2008, 07:24 PM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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Or; I hate to say this here......maybe it will take higher food prices to motivate the corporate farmers to give up their 'crack pipe' of illegal immigrants.
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Old 01-24-2008, 07:56 PM
 
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Very few jobs are in agriculture. Fewer than a million illegals are here doing farm work.
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Old 01-24-2008, 08:27 PM
 
Location: SE Arizona - FINALLY! :D
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So are you proposing that let our farms fold and import all/most of our food?
I'm not quite sure what you are proposing as a solution.
Please clarify.

Ken
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Old 01-24-2008, 08:30 PM
 
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You know I hate illegal immigration with a passion, but it is hard not to be sympathetic to those who are employed in the agricultural field. Field work is a thankless job and it is back breaking with low wages and few benefits. Most of those who work in the fields are crippled for life by the time they are in their 40's. Mexico's government failed them by not providing them a opportunity to go to school. The uneducated are the ones working in the fields. These people I take my hat off to.
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Old 01-24-2008, 08:51 PM
 
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So are you proposing that let our farms fold and import all/most of our food?
I'm not quite sure what you are proposing as a solution.
Please clarify.

Ken
Everything else is being imported. If farms won't hire Americans or pay their illegals' health care costs and education, then they might as well relocate over to Mexico where the labor costs would be cheaper.

But in reality, there are not many jobs in agriculture at all. Most illegals do not work in agriculture and many of the jobs in agriculture are held by green card workers.
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Old 01-24-2008, 09:27 PM
 
Location: Helena, Montana
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We do have work visas. The country can still secure the border and allow enough work visas to do the required ag work. The just have to do a better job of keeping track of and enforcing work visas. Make sure they leave when they're up. I think too many people us the BS excuse that we "need" illegals because of agriculture, but they don't have to be illegal to do the work. This way they're subject to a health screen and backround check, and the very small percentage of illegals that actually does ag work (less than 2% of the illegal population) beats the hell out of the full 20 million.
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