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Old 01-25-2008, 10:10 PM
 
Location: California
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No war here: I am an American, period--------like you!

I may be of Hungarian, etc. heritage but that means nothing in this discussion

Same analogy using Lawrie Sanchez; he is an Englishman, born and raised, of N Irish/Ecuadorian heritage.

Mr Sanchez is the Northern Ireland football (soccer) coach.
That may be. I do not trace my roots to America since my parents were not born here. My roots are traced back to Mexico and Europe.
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Old 01-26-2008, 11:19 AM
 
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Civil war is coming, and all the sooner if one of the dimlibs is elected: Obama, Clinton or McCain (a fluke, fake Rep). A radical thought is to divide up the country now to prevent the bloodshed. We can't afford an internal war on top of the Middle East crap going on.
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Old 01-26-2008, 04:54 PM
 
Location: Oklahoma(formerly SoCalif) Originally Mich,
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I've had the same thing on mind for along time. On the Oklahoma forum, you'd be surprise the see how many people are either planning to leave or already have left Ca. to OK. Including myself.
I think citizens will be heading for the states that have the new Immagration Law like AZ, and OK. and many other states are in the proccess of following.
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Old 01-26-2008, 05:12 PM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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mkfarnan and lilypad:

Now that Arizona is solidly anti illegal immigrant along with Oklahoma; it would be interesting to see how the USA would indeed fracture.

The much more likely scenario IMHO is that Mexico will likely shatter instead with Nuevo Leon, etc. pulling a 'Texas 1836'; telling Mexico to buzz off then petition to join the USA.

That may explain in part Mexico's extremist rhetoric directed towards the USA-------Mx knows what would happen if 5-10 million illegals were deported back.

The above people tasted respect in this country despite their status and may very well demand no less from the Mexican elite.
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Old 01-28-2008, 11:02 PM
 
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mkfarnan and lilypad:

That may explain in part Mexico's extremist rhetoric directed towards the USA-------Mx knows what would happen if 5-10 million illegals were deported back.

The above people tasted respect in this country despite their status and may very well demand no less from the Mexican elite.
I think the Mexican elite would shudder in fear of that scenario.

Yet -- it could be the best thing that could happen to Mexico. It would be reform -- and right now -- or else.
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Old 01-28-2008, 11:08 PM
 
Location: Oklahoma(formerly SoCalif) Originally Mich,
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I just posted, that Kansas and Missouri are about to follow.
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Old 01-28-2008, 11:15 PM
 
Location: Oklahoma(formerly SoCalif) Originally Mich,
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mkfarnan and lilypad:

Now that Arizona is solidly anti illegal immigrant along with Oklahoma; it would be interesting to see how the USA would indeed fracture.

The much more likely scenario IMHO is that Mexico will likely shatter instead with Nuevo Leon, etc. pulling a 'Texas 1836'; telling Mexico to buzz off then petition to join the USA.

That may explain in part Mexico's extremist rhetoric directed towards the USA-------Mx knows what would happen if 5-10 million illegals were deported back.

The above people tasted respect in this country despite their status and may very well demand no less from the Mexican elite.
I thought AZ. initiated the Bill before OK. I remember when I lived in Ca. Az. was trying to initiate a bill but the ACLU was all over it. was it the HB200?
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