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Who's gonna care for those kids once the parents have been deported?
Some of them are in their teens and twenties now. Raised here, educated in the American classrooms. We've already invested in educating, vaccinating, and everything else associated with the societal costs of raising a child. Why would we deport them now? How does that make sense?
I just re-registered my kids after being overseas for several years. The process was quite painful (in VA) and obviously designed to screen out immigrants. Its bad policy to try to enforce immigration rules at the schools and on the children. It is in the public interest for children to be educated and to speak English and its just wrong to try to start enforcing immigration policies on the children.
Start with the borders, then local adults and go from there. Schools should not be in the business of excluding kids.
Ah, "screen out immigrants"? This is the "Illegal Immigration" forum.
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I am firmly against illegal immigration. If it was up to me, there would be a change in birthright citizenship, but there would also be a change in immigration law. We tried to hire a Canadian once. He was very educated and we had worked with him for years via one of our vendors. Have you ever tried to legally navigate our immigration system? The way it is set up now actually favors doing it the illegal way. It's a mess. It's costing us a ton of money and is being used as a wedge issue.
That said, I stand by every word of the post you were responding to. It's not a simple, throw them over the border issue. It requires cool heads and rational discussion.
It only requires building a wall, e-verifying all jobs and removing birthright citizenship. Then, we work on removing the rest of the immigrants that violated our immigration laws.
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Some of them are in their teens and twenties now. Raised here, educated in the American classrooms. We've already invested in educating, vaccinating, and everything else associated with the societal costs of raising a child. Why would we deport them now? How does that make sense?
Then, they should appreciate what they got when they return home, so much more than those legally waiting to enter the country have gotten or will get when their legal turn to immigrate to the US is finally allowed.
As another thread has said "Tired of the sob stories".
I just re-registered my kids after being overseas for several years. The process was quite painful (in VA) and obviously designed to screen out immigrants. Its bad policy to try to enforce immigration rules at the schools and on the children. It is in the public interest for children to be educated and to speak English and its just wrong to try to start enforcing immigration policies on the children.
Start with the borders, then local adults and go from there. Schools should not be in the business of excluding kids.
Screening out immigrants: do you mean just people in the US legally or illegal aliens too?
Some of them are in their teens and twenties now. Raised here, educated in the American classrooms. We've already invested in educating, vaccinating, and everything else associated with the societal costs of raising a child. Why would we deport them now? How does that make sense?
All the more reason not to feel sorry for deporting them. They'll be returning to their home countries with a first world education, English fluency, business/personal contacts in America, and likely more in their bank account than the average person from their country. They will have a leg up over the others whose parents didn't break the law.
It's not a simple, throw them over the border issue. It requires cool heads and rational discussion.
Sure it is "a simple, throw them over the border issue". Of course, we're not talking about using a catapault and flinging them back---in other words, it's not meant to be taken that literally. All that needs to be done is deporting them back to their own countries. If they are anchor babies, they go with their parents. Any parent who would leave them behind is not a decent parent.
What "rational discussion" is needed when the process isn't at all complicated?
And that's a really tough stance to take on innocent children. There seems to me ( and this is just an opinion ) that there is some kind of discordance on the part of the right wing to want to protect the unborn, but not the born.
Don't get me wrong, illegal immigration is a huge social issue. We are importing poverty. But whenever someone brings up sensible reform, people freak out and grab their pitchforks. It's either a hard line yes, or a hard line no, when what we need is discussion, practicality mixed with empathy to ensure we still stand for the ideals we were founded upon while not sacrificing our own quality of life. Our current system is a morass.
There is nothing sensible about amnesty in any talk about immigration reform.
Some of them are in their teens and twenties now. Raised here, educated in the American classrooms. We've already invested in educating, vaccinating, and everything else associated with the societal costs of raising a child. Why would we deport them now? How does that make sense?
Kids adapt and they have already learned the culture and language of their native countries. I don't consider them an investment but a burden because of the costs we have incurred educating them, etc. Not only that but when they are old enough to work they will be in competition for the few jobs we have left in this country or take a college seat from an American. They will contribute to our population growth when they are of child bearing age and we don't need that at this time.
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