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Old 08-16-2015, 06:06 PM
 
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There is an easy answer to the fun they were having with numbers in that article.


The easy answer is that we need immigrants to achieve population growth, without immigrants our population does not grow. So in their numbers, it's just fun math.
We can't even employ the people in the United States now. What good is it to increase our numbers besides propping up the Ponzi social security scheme and the continuation of cheap labor?

Here is a hint. None.
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Old 08-16-2015, 06:08 PM
 
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There is an easy answer to the fun they were having with numbers in that article.


The easy answer is that we need immigrants to achieve population growth, without immigrants our population does not grow. So in their numbers, it's just fun math.
We can't even employ the people in the United States now. What good is it to increase our numbers besides propping up the Ponzi social security scheme and the continuation of cheap labor?

Here is a hint none.

Btw nice way to avoid the whole our great job growth didn't go to Americans who were here in 2000.
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Old 08-16-2015, 06:11 PM
 
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Apparently, you don't live in an area that's been destroyed by illegal aliens. Those of us who have seen this happen to our neighborhoods have, indeed, been "punished". Do you really need to know all the ways illegals destroy neighborhoods and schools? Or can you figure that out on your own? If not, do some googling.
I grew up in an area that wasn't exactly affluent. That same area now has a huge percentage of illegals. It's a farming community in California.

I know the problems that come along.

I was just wondering why you thought you were being punished for having fewer kids.

What if there were more legal immigrants? Would that be punishment too?
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Old 08-16-2015, 06:17 PM
 
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I grew up in an area that wasn't exactly affluent. That same area now has a huge percentage of illegals. It's a farming community in California.

I know the problems that come along.

I was just wondering why you thought you were being punished for having fewer kids.

What if there were more legal immigrants? Would that be punishment too?
First of all, I never said that I was "punished for having fewer kids". But since you brought up the subject---who do you think supports the spawn of illegal aliens? Answer---the taxpayers. Taxpayers pay for their birth and any subsequent doctor/hospital visits. Taxpayers pay for their schooling. Once illegals birth an anchor baby, the whole family is eligible for section 8 housing. Having an anchor baby means the whole family is eligible for an EBT card plus the baby gets WIC vouchers.

As for legal immigration---we currently allow in 1 million legal immigrants per year. While I applaud those who come here legally, we as a nation simply can not indefinitely take in 1 million legal immigrants per year as our resources are not finite.

Again, time for you to do some thorough research on this topic.
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Old 08-16-2015, 06:56 PM
 
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First of all, I never said that I was "punished for having fewer kids". But since you brought up the subject---who do you think supports the spawn of illegal aliens? Answer---the taxpayers. Taxpayers pay for their birth and any subsequent doctor/hospital visits. Taxpayers pay for their schooling. Once illegals birth an anchor baby, the whole family is eligible for section 8 housing. Having an anchor baby means the whole family is eligible for an EBT card plus the baby gets WIC vouchers.

As for legal immigration---we currently allow in 1 million legal immigrants per year. While I applaud those who come here legally, we as a nation simply can not indefinitely take in 1 million legal immigrants per year as our resources are not finite.

Again, time for you to do some thorough research on this topic.

Unemployment rates are down. They are going to increase legal immigration as long as employment rates are good.

Immigrants are a labor force.


I don't know anything about illegal aliens obtaining section 8 housing or EBT cards. Not in my State.

Immigrants legal or illegal are a work force.
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Old 08-16-2015, 07:39 PM
 
Location: My little patch of Earth
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Old 08-16-2015, 08:02 PM
 
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Unemployment rates are down. They are going to increase legal immigration as long as employment rates are good.

Immigrants are a labor force.


I don't know anything about illegal aliens obtaining section 8 housing or EBT cards. Not in my State.

Immigrants legal or illegal are a work force.
A workforce that we don't need at this time and we never need illegal aliens for anything. We have 23 million Americans out of work so no, employment rates are not good.
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Old 08-16-2015, 08:18 PM
 
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Unemployment rates are down. They are going to increase legal immigration as long as employment rates are good.

Immigrants are a labor force.


I don't know anything about illegal aliens obtaining section 8 housing or EBT cards. Not in my State.

Immigrants legal or illegal are a work force.

The unemployment rate going down a couple points doesn't mean much for the prosperity of most Americans. Most of the new jobs are low paying and/or part time. Not to mention that people who gave up looking are no longer counted. Buying power for the medium income worker is down about 10% in the last decade. So congratulations. We've successfully increased our poor working population and the number of people not bothering to look anymore. I guess that means we need a few more million third world immigrations for our race to accumulate poor people? Immigrants are a work force. But so are the billions in China and India, so why don't we move them all here, if that's a good thing to a bigger work force in numbers alone?
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Old 08-16-2015, 08:38 PM
 
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How are you being punished?

Do you think that if the population demographics changed due to legal immigration, that it somehow punishes you?
Let's try this again: the "talking heads" back in the day were telling us how too many people were being born and that we needed to cut our birthrate. Birthrate has now been cut but; we're being overrun by aliens and especially ILLEGAL aliens. That's what I mean by being punished.
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Old 08-16-2015, 08:41 PM
 
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Unemployment rates are down. They are going to increase legal immigration as long as employment rates are good.

Immigrants are a labor force.


I don't know anything about illegal aliens obtaining section 8 housing or EBT cards. Not in my State.

Immigrants legal or illegal are a work force.
The only people who "need" aliens are greedy employers who DON'T wanna pay decent wages for Americans or legal aliens already in the US. IF an employer "can't" survive without his slaves AKA illegal aliens, he NEEDS to either sell out or go out of business.
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