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Old 09-11-2015, 06:50 PM
 
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Now a days I believe almost anything as crazy as it sounds. What I want to know is when and how did the illegals gain the ears of our elected. I am all for legal immigration but amnesty, rights like driving and welfare for illegals WHAT the HECK??

When this grand liberal experiment blows up in our faces we can all blame Obama.

Here in Mass they want to give illegals drivers licenses because they are already driving and when they get in to accidents which they do often there is little recourse to go after them. No license, no insurance etc.. etc.. Ridiculous.

So when did being illegal become that is OK??
As I stated before, driving is a privilege regulated by the states and not the federal government, not a right as you erroneously stated. Welfare is also not a right, as not everyone is entitled to welfare, and no state directly gives welfare benefits to illegal aliens. The only way an illegal alien can get welfare is through ID theft, that is not "giving" illegals access to welfare. Why is there so much misinformation, and too much emotion, in this subforum?
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Old 09-11-2015, 07:01 PM
 
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As I stated before, driving is a privilege regulated by the states and not the federal government, not a right as you erroneously stated. Welfare is also not a right, as not everyone is entitled to welfare, and no state directly gives welfare benefits to illegal aliens. The only way an illegal alien can get welfare is through ID theft, that is not "giving" illegals access to welfare. Why is there so much misinformation, and too much emotion, in this subforum?
You well know that an illegal alien can not get welfare. However, you also know that once they birth an anchor baby, said baby is eligible for all sorts of welfare programs, thus the whole family benefits. For example, all it takes is having an anchor baby and the whole family is eligible for Section 8 housing.
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Old 09-11-2015, 07:24 PM
 
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You well know that an illegal alien can not get welfare. However, you also know that once they birth an anchor baby, said baby is eligible for all sorts of welfare programs, thus the whole family benefits. For example, all it takes is having an anchor baby and the whole family is eligible for Section 8 housing.
Only the baby is eligible for benefits such as WIC and Medicaid. These are benefits that the parents cannot use themselves, and public housing benefit and vouchers are pro-rated. They don't get the full benefits just because their child is a US citizen. Also, they are not eligible for certain federal programs, but may be eligible for state ones.
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Old 09-11-2015, 08:02 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Illegals are getting bold... they have been given too many rights, and they believe they can push the line further because they get away with everything and no one does anything at all. They drive with a Mexican drivers license and drive around without car insurance.. they have no fear because they are just released and nothing is done.. If we Americans do anything illegal we have to pay and pay and pay.
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Old 09-11-2015, 09:37 PM
 
Location: OCEAN BREEZES AND VIEWS SAN CLEMENTE
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Illegals are getting bold... they have been given too many rights, and they believe they can push the line further because they get away with everything and no one does anything at all. They drive with a Mexican drivers license and drive around without car insurance.. they have no fear because they are just released and nothing is done.. If we Americans do anything illegal we have to pay and pay and pay.
Your right, and we have created this big freken mess. And they will continue to further push the line, because they know, no political figure thus far, has stood up to them.

Our friend who was hit head on riding a motorcycle and left for dead, by an illegal who also was drunk, would have a lot to say about this. With a plate in almost every part of his poor body. And we let them push the line, that is even crazier.

Did I mention the car he was driving was also stolen, so much for he was here for a good decent life.
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Old 09-12-2015, 01:07 AM
 
Location: Virginia
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The Equal Protection Clause is for American citizens! Since driving is a privilege and not a right, I assume their strategy is to say they cannot be denied at least a chance to take the test. They're already abusing the 14th Amendment for their anchor babies--what else can they abuse it for? The right to vote, the right to serve on juries, the right to hold office...the lawyers that put them up to this ought to be tarred and feathered.
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Old 09-12-2015, 06:40 AM
 
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Your right, and we have created this big freken mess. And they will continue to further push the line, because they know, no political figure thus far, has stood up to them.

Our friend who was hit head on riding a motorcycle and left for dead, by an illegal who also was drunk, would have a lot to say about this. With a plate in almost every part of his poor body. And we let them push the line, that is even crazier.

Did I mention the car he was driving was also stolen, so much for he was here for a good decent life.
No, not "we". The idiots in our government have created this mess.
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Old 09-12-2015, 06:42 AM
 
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The Equal Protection Clause is for American citizens! Since driving is a privilege and not a right, I assume their strategy is to say they cannot be denied at least a chance to take the test. They're already abusing the 14th Amendment for their anchor babies--what else can they abuse it for? The right to vote, the right to serve on juries, the right to hold office...the lawyers that put them up to this ought to be tarred and feathered.
Sigh, another one going on a hyperbolic rampage. Voting is reserved for US citizens only (and not only native born before you ask), same thing with juries, and same thing for holding office except the presidency where you have to be native born
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Old 09-12-2015, 06:54 AM
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Location: NC/SC Border Patrol
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And people wonder why Trump is so high in the polls. They are trying to get him sidetracked in all kinds of ways. Keep after all the candidates and don't let them off from this issue or we are doomed as a country. Do not vote for anyone running for any office that shows any weakness for this issue.

Which party these people will end up voting for should not be consideration because they don't have a right to vote at all. Let's help them pack to go back home.

I think we need a freeze on any new citizenships for 10 years. No new citizenships until our country is free of illegals.
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Old 09-12-2015, 09:26 AM
 
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I say let them come to court, and when they arrive , arrest them and send them back to where the came from since they are here Illegally.
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