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Old 09-26-2015, 12:34 PM
 
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Protestants are still the majority in America. I have never heard Billy Graham lauded as the religious leader for Catholic Americans the way they're trying to make the pope some figurehead for non-Catholics. Yes I'm aware American Catholics often buck dogma, much to their church's chagrin. This is why the Church encourages invasion from more adherent illegals from Latin America. The Church in the US is dying.
Dying in Ireland, too. It's like Ireland's gotten better and better as the Church there's been losing more and more power and respect from their "flock".
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Old 09-26-2015, 03:13 PM
 
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Fair enough.

But I think you would agree that the liberal media pundits are using the Pope's visit to promote their agenda against conservatives.
sure, they love that this Pope has gone out on a political limb on climate change rather than sticking to the tenants of the Catholic faith. They are also being selective in pushing his message of liberal issues, but ignoring his comments against abortion, family, etc.
nothing new there other than them having a Pope who has taken up some of their pet causes.

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Protestants are still the majority in America. I have never heard Billy Graham lauded as the religious leader for Catholic Americans the way they're trying to make the pope some figurehead for non-Catholics.
I said Catholic's are the largest denomination of Christians, not that they have greater numbers than all other denominations combined.
I know of no Christians in this country who profess to be Protestants. Instead they say they are Baptists, Methodists, etc.

Regardless, to me, all Christians are the same in spirit, despite different traditions, customs, etc.
I would also note that I have never heard any Catholic deride Billy Graham, and many attended his gatherings. Just as non-Catholic Christians will attend a Pope's prayer service if the opportunity avails itself.

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Old 09-26-2015, 09:27 PM
 
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"Girl Gives Letter to Pope-Fears her parents will be deported"

The whole thing was staged, what a farce. Thank goodness we have a separation between church and state.
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Old 09-26-2015, 09:42 PM
 
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Just to add some clarity: Catholics are only expected to adhere to the Pope's teachings when he is speaking on issues of faith and morals. Topics like illegal immigration, climate change, economics--the Pope has his opinion and offers his guidance, but they are not doctrine in the same way that the opposition to abortion or same sex marriage is. He can say that we must help the poor, but there is no Church doctrine detailing just HOW we are to help the poor.

Also, the Pope is only considered infallible when speaking "ex cathedra" or "from the chair" and that occurs rarely; in fact, I believe it's only happened a couple of times throughout history.

So in summary: the Pope can say what he wants about climate change, illegals/amnesty, capitalism, socialism, etc. none of it is considered doctrine and Catholics are perfectly free to agree or disagree. Even in matters of settled doctrine, there are many Catholic dissidents.

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Old 09-26-2015, 09:44 PM
 
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"Girl Gives Letter to Pope-Fears her parents will be deported"

The whole thing was staged, what a farce. Thank goodness we have a separation between church and state.
I often think that! The Founders knew what they were doing!
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Old 09-26-2015, 09:48 PM
 
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seems that immigration group is desperate. Maybe even more so cause of trump.

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Old 09-26-2015, 09:53 PM
 
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These things are always staged. Capital is behind the so-called "progressive" cause, and capital can easily afford the PR agencies that pull off these stunts.
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Old 09-26-2015, 10:13 PM
 
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These things are always staged. Capital is behind the so-called "progressive" cause, and capital can easily afford the PR agencies that pull off these stunts.
sad that they have to use kids.

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Old 09-27-2015, 01:29 AM
 
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I'm wondering how the little brat even got close to the Pope, what with all the security.

Sounds like the Pope and Obama's administration were part of the conspiracy.
I'm sure I'm not alone, no matter what our different opinions, in thinking calling her a little brat is very extreme. She's a child. I don't know, folks. Is THAT what you wish to identify with?
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Old 09-27-2015, 06:05 AM
 
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I'm sure I'm not alone, no matter what our different opinions, in thinking calling her a little brat is very extreme. She's a child. I don't know, folks. Is THAT what you wish to identify with?
A brat? Yes, maybe a little much but a lot of people call children that. Some kids are brats. Some parents are criminals and entering the US without authorization made these parents criminals.

She is an "anchor" or so it was believed by the parents. She was the parent's way to public assistance and sympathy. Now she is expected to "perform" as the "anchor" or be dumped as useless. Not that the criminal parents would care but it is crime to dump your kids here in the US. I am guessing from all the unaccompanied children coming in as illegals that where ever these children are coming from that they are not valued in the same way that we value our children here in the US.

Yes, we have people here who have children to gain benefits but I have no use for them either. Exploiting children is the lowest possible thing a person can do.
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