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Old 10-23-2015, 07:45 PM
 
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Read Folks!!!

https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positio...gration-reform



Yes he does! He suggests nationwide E-verify

Right after he mentions triple the number of Ice Agents

https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positio...gration-reform



E-verify is in his plan, and the fence is necessary...



He did mention E-verify, along with everything else. It's not a long proposal...

https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positio...gration-reform
Thanks, this is good to know.
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Old 10-24-2015, 02:18 PM
 
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No other crime besides ..... why not pick other crimes? Being a illegal is actually kind of a big crime, its not a crime of passion, its not something done by accident, it generally takes alot of forethought to commit. Making it worse then many others in my opinion.

As for trumps five point plan, its idiocy. The fence is a horrible idea. As a prior poster mentioned theres a simple solutions. E-verify. Why didn't trump bring that up? Because it would work, and wasn't a way to sound mean and tough.



What part of "illegal" immigrant did you miss? They've committed a crime already. Deport them!
You stated you didn't support a border fence. How would we keep illegal immigrants out?? I know a nice big wall!
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Old 10-24-2015, 09:08 PM
 
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No other crime besides ..... why not pick other crimes? Being a illegal is actually kind of a big crime, its not a crime of passion, its not something done by accident, it generally takes alot of forethought to commit. Making it worse then many others in my opinion.

As for trumps five point plan, its idiocy. The fence is a horrible idea. As a prior poster mentioned theres a simple solutions. E-verify. Why didn't trump bring that up? Because it would work, and wasn't a way to sound mean and tough.



What part of "illegal" immigrant did you miss? They've committed a crime already. Deport them!
No they haven't. American history has always been a trajectory of immigrants, bold, brave, and bright ones who seek to work hard for a better life. Immigrants are some of the most hardworking people in america. Would your own entitled baristas with no marketable skills go pick cherries. Immigrants don't tend to rely on public assistance, and they tend to live very thriftily with a good sense of family integrity. Every generation of immigrants have kids here and their children adopt the same entitled ways.
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Old 10-25-2015, 06:51 AM
 
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No they haven't. American history has always been a trajectory of immigrants, bold, brave, and bright ones who seek to work hard for a better life. Immigrants are some of the most hardworking people in america. Would your own entitled baristas with no marketable skills go pick cherries. Immigrants don't tend to rely on public assistance, and they tend to live very thriftily with a good sense of family integrity. Every generation of immigrants have kids here and their children adopt the same entitled ways.
This is the ILLEGAL immigration thread. There is another one for LEGAL in C-D.

Phony Farm Labor Shortage: We Need to Talk About It
Low-paid illegal work force has little impact on prices | The Seattle Times
The Myth of Illegal Immigration and Food Prices | San Diego Reader
https://www.numbersusa.org/pages/jobs-americans-wont-do
Are There Really Jobs Americans Won

This: Reducing Illegal Immigration Through Employment Verification,Enforcement, and Protection

Again, this is the ILLEGAL immigration forum, not "Legal". Entering the US without authorization is a crime. We have a procedure for dealing with this on the books already so it is just a matter of enforcement. Most, if not all, continue to break our laws because they cannot legally work in the US. Many steal citizen identities: Illegal, but Not Undocumented | Center for Immigration Studies

I want them out as do the majority of citizens. And, yes, I have posted all of this many times before and yet, the illegal aliens and their sympathizers never bother to look at the facts because the facts dispel all of the myths that they continue to chant in their continued pursuit of "Ignorance is bliss."

Trump 2016 and beyond!
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Old 10-25-2015, 08:15 AM
 
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This is the ILLEGAL immigration thread. There is another one for LEGAL in C-D.

Phony Farm Labor Shortage: We Need to Talk About It
Low-paid illegal work force has little impact on prices | The Seattle Times
The Myth of Illegal Immigration and Food Prices | San Diego Reader
https://www.numbersusa.org/pages/jobs-americans-wont-do
Are There Really Jobs Americans Won

This: Reducing Illegal Immigration Through Employment Verification,Enforcement, and Protection

Again, this is the ILLEGAL immigration forum, not "Legal". Entering the US without authorization is a crime. We have a procedure for dealing with this on the books already so it is just a matter of enforcement. Most, if not all, continue to break our laws because they cannot legally work in the US. Many steal citizen identities: Illegal, but Not Undocumented | Center for Immigration Studies

I want them out as do the majority of citizens. And, yes, I have posted all of this many times before and yet, the illegal aliens and their sympathizers never bother to look at the facts because the facts dispel all of the myths that they continue to chant in their continued pursuit of "Ignorance is bliss."

Trump 2016 and beyond!
Note how they constantly blur the lines between legal and illegal? Note how they always use the crop picking argument in defense of illegal aliens? Most illegals aren't picking crops they have stolen jobs from Americans that they have always done by working for less. They have no right whatsoever to be working in this country. Ilegal aliens use a lot of public assistance through their anchor babies.

http://www.judicialwatch.org/blog/20...llect-welfare/
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Old 10-28-2015, 12:05 AM
 
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I keep hearing the question on what is Trump's plan on illegal immigration so I came across this article that breaks it into 5 points: BOOM: Donald Trump Announces 5-Point Plan about ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION! - The Political Insider

https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positio...gration-reform and this from Donald Trump's website.

In making an intelligent guess on the question of how will Trump get Mexico to pay for the wall, I would just tax incoming goods, yes, do away with NAFTA and there have been people in Congress introducing bills to do that since the insane thing went into effect. Either that or you have to pay to cross through the "big" door on the wall. If you have a load of tomatoes, I think you might just pay up rather than turn around and take them home.

I do see more businesses e-verifying especially in manufacturing where they are going hi-tech and it requires both education and skill to operate the equipment. I have been looking at what the impact would be on the work force where I live and I think it won't be that much at all. Slaughter jobs were eliminated from the area which took a chunk of jobs done by illegals away and now, they must rely on under-the-table and their little anchor bundles.

With any luck, employers will be pro-active and start e-verifying to save themselves a hassle in the future.

We MUST pressure our elected officials to get this thing done with illegals because the alternative is that we lose our country.
The elected officials want your donations though they wont' do anything but use that money to ask for more donations. It's wishful thinking.

Incidentally, how exactly do you supposed Donnie would have Mexico pay for the wall. US - You have to pay for the wall. Mexico - Nope.
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Old 10-28-2015, 05:51 AM
 
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The elected officials want your donations though they wont' do anything but use that money to ask for more donations. It's wishful thinking.

Incidentally, how exactly do you supposed Donnie would have Mexico pay for the wall. US - You have to pay for the wall. Mexico - Nope.
Paying for the wall? Simple. Surprised you didn't figure it out. See where people don't understand Donald Trump is that he has a comprehensive plan, not a lot of one liner promises. He has already said that to bring jobs back to the US, we need to put a tariff, like we had before when we had good jobs and the country was "great", that will level the playing field for American workers. We know it works because it was working before. So, all countries outside the US will be paying a tariff on incoming goods so it amounts to if you want to pass through the wall door, you'll be paying a tariff which will pay for the wall. Anyone that doesn't want to pay the tariff sits there with their tomatoes rotting and we can grow our own here in the states.

Donald Trump is not begging for money.

Gosh, you really need to read more about Donald Trump since you are missing the "meat" of his campaign.
Start here: https://www.donaldjtrump.com/
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Old 10-28-2015, 06:18 AM
 
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The elected officials want your donations though they wont' do anything but use that money to ask for more donations. It's wishful thinking.

Incidentally, how exactly do you supposed Donnie would have Mexico pay for the wall. US - You have to pay for the wall. Mexico - Nope.
The U.S. could use a lot of leverage against Mexico including the millions of dollars we send them. Where there's a will there's a way.
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