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Old 10-17-2015, 04:43 AM
 
Location: Purgatory
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Originally Posted by Tac-Sea View Post
Perfect! How many of these illegal aliens kids will you take in and feed, clothe, and provide medical care for? Please post your address or a picture of a check you are sending to the Immigrant Apologists Union to finance your buddies so the rest of us don't have to, because WE did not vote for this.
And WE didn't vote for the second ammendment either.

 
Old 10-17-2015, 06:13 AM
 
Location: Jamestown, NY
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No, the 14th Amendment does not grant the right of citizenship to kids born from illegal alien parents (so no, they aren't the kids of immigrants). This has been discussed in here over and over.
Yes it does. Read it.
 
Old 10-17-2015, 06:19 AM
 
Location: Jamestown, NY
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The kids are not American citizens. The 14th Amendment was passed to give slaves and their descendants citizenship. The Supreme Court case of Wong Kim Ark, a Chinese immigrant, determined that the children of LEGAL immigrants born here are Americans. The citizenship of illegals has only been assumed, never adjudicated by SCOTUS.

Excuse me, but the wording of the 14th Amendment is pretty clear and straight forward:

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1: All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
If you're born in the USA, you're a citizen. Your parents' status makes absolutely no difference.
 
Old 10-17-2015, 07:20 AM
 
Location: Kansas
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Nonsense. Just complicating what should be simple.

The kids are Americans beyond any doubt. Texas is just deliberately complicating them getting the documentation to affirm their status. We should all be annoyed at TX for mistreating American Citizens.
Democratic Debate Spotlights Health Care for Illegal Immigrants - Washington Wire - WSJ
Did Congress ever confer citizenship on anchor babies? - NetRight Daily

If one of the parents is a legal citizen, they need to issue the birth certificates. If not, they need to find another source where their anchors can feed off the public assistance teat.

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Perfect! How many of these illegal aliens kids will you take in and feed, clothe, and provide medical care for? Please post your address or a picture of a check you are sending to the Immigrant Apologists Union to finance your buddies so the rest of us don't have to, because WE did not vote for this.
Agree. This is one area that should be turned over to charity to fund.

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You wish seriously to discriminate against American Citizen Kids based upon who is their parents?

You buying sheets and hoods as well? Maybe burn a cross or two?
Oh, give up the race card! These people come here to feed off the public assistance teat and do it by reproducing kids they can't afford. That is SO immoral. And, guess who pays for the pre-natal care? The delivery? And, then takes over from cradle to grave? So you would agree if we give the kids the birth certificates and since the parents are illegal, we send them all home. I could almost agree with that. At the moment they out themselves as criminal (illegal entry), we detain and deport.

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If we're gonna go there: deport the parents who are here illegally and have CPS collect the kids under 18 years old.

Birthright: it WILL go away. Even Ireland killed it about 10 years ago.
I hope you are right about birthright going away. We all know that it wasn't meant to be the way it is. They have the anchors to get welfare and you'll see more and more of it as the jobs go higher tech because the jobs aren't there. We have citizens like that and don't need to import any.
 
Old 10-17-2015, 07:30 AM
 
Location: Jamestown, NY
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I hope you are right about birthright going away. We all know that it wasn't meant to be the way it is. They have the anchors to get welfare and you'll see more and more of it as the jobs go higher tech because the jobs aren't there. We have citizens like that and don't need to import any.
It's NOT happening. And yes, it was "meant to be the way it is" because the intent of the 14th Amendment was to specifically grant citizenship to anyone born in the USA no matter what because the SCOTUS had ruled in Dredd Scott that Blacks weren't citizens and couldn't be citizens.
 
Old 10-17-2015, 07:41 AM
 
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Yes it does. Read it.
I have read it and all the explanations why kids born from illegal alien parents are not birthright citizens. Perhaps you should do likewise. This topic has been discussed in here many times. You might want to search for those topics as I am not going to keep another one going for the umpteenth time. It has merely been a PC practice never brought before the Supreme Court for clarification based on the wording/clause of the 14th Amendment. "And" subject to the jurisdiction is the qualifier and they nor their parents are subject to our full jurisdiction but their own homelands instead.
 
Old 10-17-2015, 07:44 AM
 
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Angry Twisting the 14th Amendment!

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It's NOT happening. And yes, it was "meant to be the way it is" because the intent of the 14th Amendment was to specifically grant citizenship to anyone born in the USA no matter what because the SCOTUS had ruled in Dredd Scott that Blacks weren't citizens and couldn't be citizens.
However, the 14th amendment applied to people who were once slaves in the Old south and even the North. The Aftermath of the Civil War, if you will.

This should not apply to Illegals Mothers who decide to have a baby in the US. When Texas wins it will send a message that American Law can not be twisted to cater to Illegals who have not respected for American Law. This country Belongs to the Citizens of the United States of America. Not the world.

Think about these Illegals are intentionally trying to break all Immigration Laws. That is the bottom line.
Many forgets the requirements to be a citizen (By Birth) there is required one of the parents to be American.
 
Old 10-17-2015, 08:30 AM
 
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The bottom line is that these people were not supposed to be here in the US to begin with. That applies to all their whining about what they think they should have!!! There should be NO benefit or rewards for breaking the law.

Linda_d: Comparing to illegal aliens that broke the immigration laws of our country by entering the US illegally to black slaves brought in chains and sold like cattle, seriously, what I have to say about that, I can't post here.
 
Old 10-17-2015, 10:32 AM
 
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It's NOT happening. And yes, it was "meant to be the way it is" because the intent of the 14th Amendment was to specifically grant citizenship to anyone born in the USA no matter what because the SCOTUS had ruled in Dredd Scott that Blacks weren't citizens and couldn't be citizens.
Nope. The US born kinds of diplomats DON'T get birthright citizenship. If their kind are cut out: there's def NO reason why the US born kids of ILLEGAL aliens should. Sheesh!
 
Old 10-17-2015, 11:10 AM
 
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