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Old 01-27-2016, 09:55 AM
 
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Considering that we end up supporting both legal and illegal plus refugees, we don't need to bring in any new legal and need to expel any that already here illegally.

If they can't come in legally with a job, they don't need to come. We considered adopting a child through foreign adoption at one point. A little girl with Down syndrome from India. There was so much paperwork involved, we had to prove we had the finances, insurance, and many other things to show that the child would not be a burden to taxpayers. Because of all the costs, and they kept mounting up, we decided not to go ahead with the adoption. The child was in India and there were so many palms to grease............. Sad. Even sadder when you realize that since that time, we have been taxed to provide for illegal aliens and their anchors.

Legal immigration by country: U.S. Immigrant Population Record 41.3 Million in 2013 | Center for Immigration Studies

Illegal immigration: Immigrant Population Hits Record 42.1 Million in Second Quarter of 2015 | Center for Immigration Studies
The Haitians don't cause problems when they come to America. There are large communities in Miami (where I grew up), NY, Boston, and a few more major cities.

 
Old 01-27-2016, 09:57 AM
 
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I find it hard to sympathize with trespassers. They trespass and expect to be welcomed. Only in the USA is a trespasser welcomed with open arms and cared for better than we care for our own people in need. How twisted is that?
I support the right of the Dominican Republic to expel their unwanted trespassers.
We have literally dumped billions into Haiti and the result is a sewer. Further Proof that foreign aid is a waste of tax payer dollars.
 
Old 01-27-2016, 10:55 AM
 
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I find it hard to sympathize with trespassers. They trespass and expect to be welcomed. Only in the USA is a trespasser welcomed with open arms and cared for better than we care for our own people in need. How twisted is that?
I support the right of the Dominican Republic to expel their unwanted trespassers.
We have literally dumped billions into Haiti and the result is a sewer. Further Proof that foreign aid is a waste of tax payer dollars.

You're right and many of those countries we send aid to hate us anyway. You'd think with being trillions in debt we'd stop that practice.
 
Old 01-27-2016, 04:58 PM
 
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You're right and many of those countries we send aid to hate us anyway. You'd think with being trillions in debt we'd stop that practice.
You would think that we would at the very least be a bit more selective about who we finance.
 
Old 01-27-2016, 06:18 PM
 
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I find it hard to sympathize with trespassers. They trespass and expect to be welcomed. Only in the USA is a trespasser welcomed with open arms and cared for better than we care for our own people in need. How twisted is that?
I support the right of the Dominican Republic to expel their unwanted trespassers.
We have literally dumped billions into Haiti and the result is a sewer. Further Proof that foreign aid is a waste of tax payer dollars.
All the while continuously meddling in its politics. Maybe if Haiti wasn't forced to pay the equivalent of ~$20 billion to France to keep it from being reenslaved and/or colonized, it would be much better off. The payments only ended in 1947. Not to mention, all other European-dominated nations, to include the U.S., supported France and refused to do business with Haiti. The point was to bankrupt the nation.

Haiti has had its own share of poor leaders who were equally as bad for its wellbeing as well. So it was screwed from within and without.

But let's not act like Haiti got there alone...
 
Old 01-27-2016, 06:27 PM
 
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It's very sad what is happening in France now but karma is a....
 
Old 01-27-2016, 06:42 PM
 
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The Haitians don't cause problems when they come to America. There are large communities in Miami (where I grew up), NY, Boston, and a few more major cities.
So they are here legally. I have no issue with those that enter the country legally. This is the Illegal Immigration area. If they aren't here legally, they are criminals and need to be booted back to where they came from - it's the law.

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All the while continuously meddling in its politics. Maybe if Haiti wasn't forced to pay the equivalent of ~$20 billion to France to keep it from being reenslaved and/or colonized, it would be much better off. The payments only ended in 1947. Not to mention, all other European-dominated nations, to include the U.S., supported France and refused to do business with Haiti. The point was to bankrupt the nation.

Haiti has had its own share of poor leaders who were equally as bad for its wellbeing as well. So it was screwed from within and without.

But let's not act like Haiti got there alone...
Well, Haitians need to get together and try to force change. Do you have any idea how many Americans have died that we have the freedom that we have? Probably not. We have problems of our own and the last thing we need is to add more population since we can't even take care of our own people.

Lots of suffering people in the world and we can't save them all.
 
Old 01-27-2016, 06:49 PM
 
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Well, Haitians need to get together and try to force change. Do you have any idea how many Americans have died that we have the freedom that we have? Probably not. We have problems of our own and the last thing we need is to add more population since we can't even take care of our own people.

Lots of suffering people in the world and we can't save them all.
Please. Haitians were not asking for US interference. Study the history of the US meddling in their nation and in the Caribbean on a whole.

The U.S. didn't enter to save anything but their own so-called interests. From the early 1900s, they went in because the Germans started to form ties there.
 
Old 01-27-2016, 07:14 PM
 
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It's very sad what is happening in France now but karma is a....
IMHO that ain't karma, sorry. Because if we're gonna go there; karma WILL bite Black people here in the US 60 years later because of the hood rats in 2016 acting stupid even tho the 2066 Blacks would be 100 percent innocent.

Back to France: that country needs to start playing rough with its "problem children".

Haiti: many other "Black" countries got torn up a whole lot worse than that place by "white" people but are doing well in 2016 like Botswana, Namibia and even Somalia.
 
Old 01-27-2016, 07:29 PM
 
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IMHO that ain't karma, sorry. Because if we're gonna go there; karma WILL bite Black people here in the US 60 years later because of the hood rats in 2016 acting stupid even tho the 2066 Blacks would be 100 percent innocent.

Back to France: that country needs to start playing rough with its "problem children".

Haiti: many other "Black" countries got torn up a whole lot worse than that place by "white" people but are doing well in 2016 like Botswana, Namibia and even Somalia.
It is karma. France has meddled in so many nations and now some of their people are disrupting France. It is what it is.

Not sure what you obsession is with the minority of ghetto AAs but that is in no way comparable to the actions of France as a nation.

None of those countries have a history remotely similar to that of Haiti. LOL.
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