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Old 03-08-2009, 05:37 PM
 
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What the previous amnesties taught us is that rewarding criminals only encourages more to do the same. Now if a bank robber robs a bank and you let him keep the money doesnt this encourage others to do the same?
Deport them after taking all their assets as a penalty.
your analogy is not relevant, we need to compare oranges to oranges, if it was not for our migrant workers the economy would have collapsed a long time ago.

 
Old 03-08-2009, 05:43 PM
 
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your analogy is not relevant, we need to compare oranges to oranges, if it was not for our migrant workers the economy would have collapsed a long time ago.
I would argue that it is relevant. Both are criminals.
I would also argue that if it wernt for illegals stealing jobs in the construction trades the economy would be stronger and less damaged than it is. Lets talk about the crimes Illegals commit. ID theft, Evade taxes, fail to pay hospital bills etc. Lets talk about what they cost us. We need spanish speakers in schools just for the children of illegals.
How many people murdered by Illegals would still be alive today if we had sealed the border after the last amnesty? If even 1 then it is worth it to seal it now. Why reward a criminal? What if they stole your car? Would you give them your other one too?
 
Old 03-08-2009, 05:47 PM
 
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I would argue that it is relevant. Both are criminals.
I would also argue that if it wernt for illegals stealing jobs in the construction trades the economy would be stronger and less damaged than it is. Lets talk about the crimes Illegals commit. ID theft, Evade taxes, fail to pay hospital bills etc. Lets talk about what they cost us. We need spanish speakers in schools just for the children of illegals.
How many people murdered by Illegals would still be alive today if we had sealed the border after the last amnesty? If even 1 then it is worth it to seal it now. Why reward a criminal? What if they stole your car? Would you give them your other one too?
How many less murderes here if US had never been populated??
 
Old 03-08-2009, 05:50 PM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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your analogy is not relevant, we need to compare oranges to oranges, if it was not for our migrant workers the economy would have collapsed a long time ago.
Considering that our economy has essentially collapsed: that has proven that illegal aliens are not wanted-----------they are a net liability.
 
Old 03-08-2009, 06:02 PM
 
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Considering that our economy has essentially collapsed: that has proven that illegal aliens are not wanted-----------they are a net liability.
Ay, Ay, Ay, what is this, the fifth dimension?????
 
Old 03-08-2009, 06:04 PM
 
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How many less murderes here if US had never been populated??
Not relevant. They were born here illegals entered without permission. As for our own murderers they should be executed for their crimes. Same goes for any illegal who commits such a crime. You avoided the question. Is this because you dont have an answer? Do you deny that illegals are criminals? 100% of them because of how they entered the country and all the crimes they commit after they enter?
 
Old 03-08-2009, 06:07 PM
 
Location: southern california
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yep guna happen. if new orleans is any indicator, the line to take those stimulus jobs is not guna be black or white . --- step 1 amnesty, step 2 job stimulus.
 
Old 03-08-2009, 06:50 PM
 
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How many less murderes here if US had never been populated??
This is the best answer you can come up with because there are no excuses for illegal aliens who commit crimes, commit ID theft, evade taxes, fail to pay their hospital bills. Why don't you rebut his argument point by point? What excuse is there for an illegal alien to steal someone's SS#?
 
Old 03-08-2009, 06:53 PM
 
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yep guna happen. if new orleans is any indicator, the line to take those stimulus jobs is not guna be black or white . --- step 1 amnesty, step 2 job stimulus.
I don't see that happening. There are far too many Americans out of work. In Ohio, 700 people applied for ONE position as a school janitor. If an American has to have one of the stimulus jobs or they will lose their home or car, they are not going to be very receptive to the idea that that job should go to an illegal.
 
Old 03-08-2009, 06:54 PM
 
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This is the best answer you can come up with because there are no excuses for illegal aliens who commit crimes, commit ID theft, evade taxes, fail to pay their hospital bills. Why don't you rebut his argument point by point? What excuse is there for an illegal alien to steal someone's SS#?
Thanks I was wondering the same thing. And where is tinman when you need him. This kind of debate is his deal.
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