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Old 01-31-2008, 07:24 PM
 
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Just realized that there is a 75% chance that amnesty will be granted to the millions of illegals in 2009. Clinton, Obama and McCain all favor amnesty. Only one who doesn't is Romney and he has no chance so actually it's 95% certain. Happy everyone?

 
Old 01-31-2008, 07:28 PM
 
Location: Bike to Surf!
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Yes, quite, actually.

Hopefully the ability to voluntarily change from undocumented to documented will come with appropriate fees, penalties, and back-taxes.

No more second-class shadow people. Hooray!
 
Old 01-31-2008, 07:29 PM
 
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No

They all will put the issue on the back burner and do nothing because its to hot of an issue. The states will be actively legislating laws to rid themselves of illegals

we win
 
Old 01-31-2008, 07:30 PM
 
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Except as you well know there won't be any back taxes or penalties or go to the back of the line or improved border security. Just $1 trillion in subsidies for people making $5/hr and their families. Hooray!!!
 
Old 01-31-2008, 07:36 PM
 
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The next President will not allow this issue to be in the fore front of their administration. Who ever is elected will be glad the issue didnt sink their campaign and ignore it for the length of their term.

Fortunately the people can hold the immigration issue over the head of Governers and state legislatures who fear the voting public.
 
Old 01-31-2008, 07:46 PM
 
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I hope so Bryan. I don't see what's wrong with just denying them anything including education and healthcare for their kids. Won't they just self-deport?
 
Old 01-31-2008, 08:03 PM
 
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Just realized that there is a 75% chance that amnesty will be granted to the millions of illegals in 2009. Clinton, Obama and McCain all favor amnesty. Only one who doesn't is Romney and he has no chance so actually it's 95% certain. Happy everyone?
One thing -- we don't have a dictatorship quite yet -- the president cannot make a decision unilaterally. Bush very much planned to hand millions of lawbreakers easy citizenship as their reward for breaking the laws -- and it didn't happen.
 
Old 01-31-2008, 08:13 PM
 
Location: Pinal County, Arizona
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One thing that will stop amnesty from occuring:

The People - the People of the United States of America.

The People OVERWHELMINGLY do not approve of amnesty - and, as was shown recently, when the people get after the Congress - suddenly, was seemed assured, was not -

Amnesty BTW was done before - and, it was a dismal failure.

Also, Amnesty shows total and complete disrespect to those immigrants who came here LEGALLY - Amnesty is nothing more than those here ILLEGALLY thumbing their noses at the LEGAL immigrants -

No, I don't believe Amnesty will occur in 2009 - or 2010, or 11 etc
 
Old 01-31-2008, 08:39 PM
 
Location: San Diego North County
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One thing -- we don't have a dictatorship quite yet -- the president cannot make a decision unilaterally. Bush very much planned to hand millions of lawbreakers easy citizenship as their reward for breaking the laws -- and it didn't happen.
Bush actively lobbied for shamnesty.

The American People lobbied their elected officials with a resounding "NO" which reverberated through Congress and the Senate.

And we will do so again and again until someone in power finally gets it through their thick skulls that We the People want our borders secured and our sovereign laws enforced--no compromises--no trade-offs, period.
 
Old 01-31-2008, 08:43 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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One thing -- we don't have a dictatorship quite yet -- the president cannot make a decision unilaterally. Bush very much planned to hand millions of lawbreakers easy citizenship as their reward for breaking the laws -- and it didn't happen.
So true. Illegals are excited over the prospect of a pro-amnesty president in the White House. Hellooo…..we already have a pro-amnesty president in the White House -- and CIR failed –- and it will fail again. The candidates who are advocating amnesty are doing so, simply to garner votes. They are well aware of their limited power. As mentioned – we do not have a dictatorship. Legal U.S. citizens have had enough, and states are now responding. We will NOT accept amnesty!

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