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Old 12-02-2015, 06:42 PM
 
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In contrast, Fwd.us is advocating for a pathway to citizenship for 11 million undocumented immigrants currently living in the United States who do not have legal status.

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Hey Mark: how about stick with running Facebook instead of supporting amnesty for illegal aliens. Ok?
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Old 12-02-2015, 07:02 PM
 
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Path to citizenship. Good to see him on the superior side of this argument.
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Old 12-02-2015, 07:21 PM
 
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Path to citizenship. Good to see him on the superior side of this argument.
Uh; more and more of us want illegal aliens GONE. Tho it seems a LOT of the illegal alien fans would've believed in slavery 150 years ago since their kind want cheaper help so they can live high on the hog.
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Old 12-02-2015, 07:23 PM
 
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Path to citizenship. Good to see him on the superior side of this argument.


There is no "superior side" of this argument.

Unlike a broken clock, you're not even right twice a day.
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Old 12-03-2015, 02:07 AM
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Uh; more and more of us want illegal aliens GONE. Tho it seems a LOT of the illegal alien fans would've believed in slavery 150 years ago since their kind want cheaper help so they can live high on the hog.
Is that really the only reason anyone supports amnesty for illegal aliens? So they can hire them cheap? Doesn't anyone support it on principle? That they earned legal residence by living here a certain number of years and being good members of their communities? Can't a certain number of years of good behavior mitigate the original crime of illegal immigration they committed years ago? Or on other principles? Such as that a lot of them really have no place to go? Because, for a lot of them, sending them to their home counties is equivalent to sending them to hell?

What if you went to prison for being in possession of marijuana 20 years ago, and got out 19 years ago? Can you be a good citizen now? Even if you still sometimes smoke marijuana? Or should we send you to hell, like we want to send a lot of illegal aliens?

Not that I'm necessarily in favor of illegal immigration. But it seems like a much more complicated issue than the simple black and white, good and bad, so many people want to paint it as.
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Old 12-03-2015, 05:23 AM
 
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Is that really the only reason anyone supports amnesty for illegal aliens? So they can hire them cheap? Doesn't anyone support it on principle? That they earned legal residence by living here a certain number of years and being good members of their communities? Can't a certain number of years of good behavior mitigate the original crime of illegal immigration they committed years ago? Or on other principles? Such as that a lot of them really have no place to go? Because, for a lot of them, sending them to their home counties is equivalent to sending them to hell?

What if you went to prison for being in possession of marijuana 20 years ago, and got out 19 years ago? Can you be a good citizen now? Even if you still sometimes smoke marijuana? Or should we send you to hell, like we want to send a lot of illegal aliens?

Not that I'm necessarily in favor of illegal immigration. But it seems like a much more complicated issue than the simple black and white, good and bad, so many people want to paint it as.

No, cheap employers are not the only anti-Americans involved in defending illegal aliens. Bleeding heart liberals and ethnocentrics play a role in this also. You think that just entering our country illegally is the only violation of our laws that they commit? How were they able to work here if not by stealing someone's ID or working under the table evading taxes? They live a life of lies and fraud the minute they cross our border illegally.


Your analogy makes no sense. When someone goes to prison they have paid for their crimes. Illegal aliens would be getting a pass on justice by being allowed to remain here via an amnesty. Sending them to hell? Most illegals aren't coming here because of violence in their own countries. They are merely coming here for economic gain on the backs of the American worker/taxpayer. What about the hell that Americans have gone through losing their jobs to illegal aliens, having their taxes go through the roof supporting them or have been victims of crimes committed by many of them?
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Old 12-03-2015, 05:27 AM
 
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No, cheap employers are not the only anti-Americans involved in defending illegal aliens. Bleeding heart liberals and ethnocentrics play a role in this also. You think that just entering our country illegally is the only violation of our laws that they commit? How were they able to work here if not by stealing someone's ID or working under the table evading taxes? They live a life of lies and fraud the minute they cross our border illegally.
Just like Americans, not all of them work. Many of them are supported by legal immigrants (family members that came here legally)... allowing them to live here without committing crimes.
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Old 12-03-2015, 06:27 AM
 
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Is that really the only reason anyone supports amnesty for illegal aliens? So they can hire them cheap? Doesn't anyone support it on principle? That they earned legal residence by living here a certain number of years and being good members of their communities? Can't a certain number of years of good behavior mitigate the original crime of illegal immigration they committed years ago? Or on other principles? Such as that a lot of them really have no place to go? Because, for a lot of them, sending them to their home counties is equivalent to sending them to hell?

What if you went to prison for being in possession of marijuana 20 years ago, and got out 19 years ago? Can you be a good citizen now? Even if you still sometimes smoke marijuana? Or should we send you to hell, like we want to send a lot of illegal aliens?

Not that I'm necessarily in favor of illegal immigration. But it seems like a much more complicated issue than the simple black and white, good and bad, so many people want to paint it as.
Try again, please. Using your pot smoker; he WAS arrested, charged and went to jail. He paid for his crime even tho busting and charging someone for some weed IS stupid IMHO.
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Old 12-03-2015, 07:08 AM
 
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Is that really the only reason anyone supports amnesty for illegal aliens? So they can hire them cheap? Doesn't anyone support it on principle? That they earned legal residence by living here a certain number of years and being good members of their communities? Can't a certain number of years of good behavior mitigate the original crime of illegal immigration they committed years ago? Or on other principles? Such as that a lot of them really have no place to go? Because, for a lot of them, sending them to their home counties is equivalent to sending them to hell?

What if you went to prison for being in possession of marijuana 20 years ago, and got out 19 years ago? Can you be a good citizen now? Even if you still sometimes smoke marijuana? Or should we send you to hell, like we want to send a lot of illegal aliens?

Not that I'm necessarily in favor of illegal immigration. But it seems like a much more complicated issue than the simple black and white, good and bad, so many people want to paint it as.
A couple other issues: Illegal, but Not Undocumented | Center for Immigration Studies and https://www.numbersusa.com/problems/taxpayer-burden and Sanctuary Cities -- Illegal Immigration Victims Speak | National Review Online and Family Security Matters and Victims of Illegal Aliens Memorial and Crime victims of illegal aliens and U.S. GAO - Illegal Aliens: Extent of Welfare Benefits Received on Behalf of U.S. Citizen Children and Estimated Cost of Educating New Illegal Children at $760 Million and Tom Tancredo muffs illegal immigrant murder stats | PunditFact

The law is they are detained and deported. I support the laws of the US. I am also tired of the bugs, viruses and diseases that they bring to our people and our pets/livestock. I am tired of them ruining the neighborhoods and the schools. I am tired of seeing these anchor babies step in front of citizens for services. I am just tired of their arrogance and their hatching babies for profit!!!

Adding this one and that I am watching the destruction of a city by illegal immigration: http://www.ambrosekane.com/2013/12/3...to-our-cities/

Also, haven't you seen people who have been living for years as a good legal citizen that have had crimes they committed in the past, picked up, go to trial and go to prison? Oh, that's right, illegals are a special breed!!!!

They break law after law after coming here. They drive without a driver's license, work under the table or work without authorization to just mention a few.

I am tired of supporting people having 5 or 6 children when most American citizens can't afford more than 1 or 2 children. I am tired of it all. It is time to stop it and the majority agree.

All sympathizers need to get together with their churches and provide support for these people that will be returning to their country of origins.

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