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Old 12-21-2015, 01:29 PM
 
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I don't know if anyone read through the entire article but regardless of your opinion on immigration these people are trying to escape being killed by the gang sin Honduras, Nicaragua, Guatemala. They are very desperate, they have to be to travel that distance to get here time and again.

If that were the case then why didn't he request asylum/ refugee status rather than coming here illegally? Doesn't sound like he made his case. In fact when asked why he came here illegally he said it was to find work. He said nothing about his life being in jeopardy. I ain't buyin it and neither did the immigration officers. Therefore, he was deported.

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Old 12-21-2015, 01:51 PM
 
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I don't know if anyone read through the entire article but regardless of your opinion on immigration these people are trying to escape being killed by the gang sin Honduras, Nicaragua, Guatemala. They are very desperate, they have to be to travel that distance to get here time and again.
Are you all but saying LatAm ain't good enough to take care of their own people? Those people need to go THROUGH Mexico to even get to the US.
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Old 12-22-2015, 09:05 AM
 
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If that were the case then why didn't he request asylum/ refugee status rather than coming here illegally? Doesn't sound like he made his case. In fact when asked why he came here illegally he said it was to find work. He said nothing about his life being in jeopardy. I ain't buyin it and neither did the immigration officers. Therefore, he was deported.
Asylum is normally granted based on race, religion but they have loosened requirements for women and minors. Being threatened by gangs doesn't count and he was already here in any event, tough to prove even when they have a great case it can take years.
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Old 12-22-2015, 10:14 AM
 
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Asylum is normally granted based on race, religion but they have loosened requirements for women and minors. Being threatened by gangs doesn't count and he was already here in any event, tough to prove even when they have a great case it can take years.

The point is if that if you don't request asylum/refugee status prior to coming here and are subsequently denied then one doesn't have the right to come here anyway without authorization. Why is the U.S. always the patsy for every threatened, needy person in the world? It has to stop.
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Old 12-28-2015, 07:04 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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The point is if that if you don't request asylum/refugee status prior to coming here and are subsequently denied then one doesn't have the right to come here anyway without authorization. Why is the U.S. always the patsy for every threatened, needy person in the world? It has to stop.
I am not condoning this but these are desperate people and the asylum process can take years, meanwhile we are fighting ISIS.
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Old 12-28-2015, 07:13 PM
 
Location: Kansas
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I just really don't care about anyone's desperation, illegal is illegal. What about our own people?

Half a Million in US Homeless, Despite Economic Growth and America's Youngest Outcasts We need to serve those people first.
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Old 12-28-2015, 07:14 PM
 
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I am not condoning this but these are desperate people and the asylum process can take years, meanwhile we are fighting ISIS.

The point was that most illegals do not qualify as true refugees because they aren't escaping violence and fear of losing their lives. They come here for economic reasons on the backs of the U.S. taxpayer/worker.
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Old 12-28-2015, 07:53 PM
 
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I am not condoning this but these are desperate people and the asylum process can take years, meanwhile we are fighting ISIS.
Let the rich Gulf Arab countries take care of their own people. Why those Muslim fools even wanna go to the "Infidel" places where they'll likely get their butts kicked for acting stupid.
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Old 12-28-2015, 08:35 PM
 
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The point was that most illegals do not qualify as true refugees because they aren't escaping violence and fear of losing their lives. They come here for economic reasons on the backs of the U.S. taxpayer/worker.
If you read the article you wouldn't be claiming they came here for purely economic reasons. Also read the story regarding children and you girls risking their lives coming here, do you think that is because of economic reasons.
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Old 12-28-2015, 09:07 PM
 
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I read the article (and most of the comments) - and many others with the same theme -- and I strongly feel it doesn't matter whether it is about young girls, minors and the like, we cannot take in every person for any reason. Period. Where is it written that the US is responsible for the rest of the world's woes? We have been the world's flophouse for far too long. It has to end.

Perhaps keeping their birth rates down instead of bringing more mouths to feed would be a good start. If a parent in the US sent their minor children unaccompanied to another country without funds or a destination, s/he would be charged with child abuse. Frankly, if these folks cared so much for their children and family unit, they wouldn't risk their offsprings' lives. No sympathy or empathy here.

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