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Old 12-27-2015, 08:29 PM
 
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Any business that either caters to illegals or knowingly hires them is a diseased business and needs to die.

 
Old 12-28-2015, 07:24 AM
 
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There are also millions of them who use fake or stolen ID's to work. E-verify will put an end to that. Once e-verify is mandated there won't be near as many employers willing to take a chance by hiring illegals that have fake documents or to pay them cash under the table. It's grasping at straws to claim that e-verify won't put a huge dent in the problem or maybe it's just wishful thinking on the part of some in here?
 
Old 12-28-2015, 02:11 PM
 
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Thanks to the Omnibus bill which passed illegals and DREAMERS are here to stay. The GOP and Ryan are a joke. They betrayed all conservatives. Why even vote?
 
Old 12-29-2015, 04:52 AM
 
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Thanks to the Omnibus bill which passed illegals and DREAMERS are here to stay. The GOP and Ryan are a joke. They betrayed all conservatives. Why even vote?
Vote for Trump.

The GOP and Ryan hate him -- as do the Democrooks.
 
Old 12-29-2015, 08:15 AM
 
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Any hardline candidate against amnesty is going to have a hell of a time winning Florida which is a key battleground state, you can be a moderate pro amnesty candidate and still take Pennsylvania and Ohio, so while we will build a wall and kick everyone out no exceptions maybe be popular on this board or even in a republican primary is political suicide on a general election, you would be better off keeping your policy vague and doing what you intent to do after the general election.
 
Old 12-29-2015, 08:42 AM
 
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Any hardline candidate against amnesty is going to have a hell of a time winning Florida which is a key battleground state, you can be a moderate pro amnesty candidate and still take Pennsylvania and Ohio, so while we will build a wall and kick everyone out no exceptions maybe be popular on this board or even in a republican primary is political suicide on a general election, you would be better off keeping your policy vague and doing what you intent to do after the general election.

The polls show otherwise. What's a moderate pro-amnesty candidate? There is no plan to kick out all illegals forcibly aka "rounding them all up" regardless of what Trump says. The desired and sensible way is to remove all of the incentives for them to remain here. Building the 700 mile wall along the most porous areas of our southern border was already approved by congress. It's not just a popular idea on this board. Any candidate promising amnesty instead would be committing political suicide in today's political climate and economy.
 
Old 12-29-2015, 12:36 PM
 
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Any hardline candidate against amnesty is going to have a hell of a time winning Florida which is a key battleground state, you can be a moderate pro amnesty candidate and still take Pennsylvania and Ohio, so while we will build a wall and kick everyone out no exceptions maybe be popular on this board or even in a republican primary is political suicide on a general election, you would be better off keeping your policy vague and doing what you intent to do after the general election.
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The polls show otherwise. What's a moderate pro-amnesty candidate? There is no plan to kick out all illegals forcibly aka "rounding them all up" regardless of what Trump says. The desired and sensible way is to remove all of the incentives for them to remain here. Building the 700 mile wall along the most porous areas of our southern border was already approved by congress. It's not just a popular idea on this board. Any candidate promising amnesty instead would be committing political suicide in today's political climate and economy.
OldGlory's right: more and more people are getting pissed at illegal aliens AND their helpers.
 
Old 12-29-2015, 07:13 PM
 
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OldGlory's right: more and more people are getting pissed at illegal aliens AND their helpers.
More people where? I am sure the residents of border states feel the worse effects of illegal immigration, the drug trafficking, human smuggling that comes with not having a secure border but those states are already red and california is blue not turning red. The rest of the states probably feel enough of the downward pressure on wages for unskilled labor but only a small segment of their voters.
 
Old 12-29-2015, 07:21 PM
 
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More people where? I am sure the residents of border states feel the worse effects of illegal immigration, the drug trafficking, human smuggling that comes with not having a secure border but those states are already red and california is blue not turning red. The rest of the states probably feel enough of the downward pressure on wages for unskilled labor but only a small segment of their voters.
Are you not familiar with the deleterious effects on illegal immigration and how just about the entire country has become negatively affected?

For those of us in non-border states, it isn't just "the downward pressure on wages for unskilled labor". It's things like illegals destroying entire neighborhoods by creating flophouses, which escalates into schools going downhill and crime going up. When that happens, it isn't just a "small segment of...voters" who are feeling the ill effects.
 
Old 12-30-2015, 09:13 AM
 
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The fact that the majority do not support amnesty means they will be choosing a candidate that doesn't support amnesty. I suspect we'll see more people voting than we have in many years. So many people unemployed and underemployed being taxes to death to support illegals and their supposed anchors. Services being cut for our disabled and seniors.

I think Rubio is washed up now. I think they cheat on the polls to see the candidate surge and then see if the candidate can keep their head above water. Rubio has drown in the polls.
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