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Old 12-26-2015, 08:34 PM
 
Location: San Francisco Bay Area
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Ahem, excuse me. OldGlory is one of the most knowledgable and intelligent members here. If I could only rep OldGlory for right-on responses and ones that make me think and sometimes challenge my opinions.

 
Old 12-26-2015, 11:42 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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Your response is standard CD idiocy. The posts of those who can't fill CD.

No one is waiting to get their job back. The illegals have had them for over a life time. And even if you have them ready...where are they? You lose 2 or 3 million people in California. You really think there are 2 or 3 million Californians ready to jump in to those positions? Really - Actually your writings do indicate that understanding is not high on your list of qualities. Maybe you are nice to dumb animals?
Wrong. Americans, who have always done these jobs and who have been trying to hold onto these jobs all along, are being pushed out. Please read this thorough, investigative report in its entirety. It is from a liberally slanted, millenial-targeted website. http://www.buzzfeed.com/jessicagarri...red#.ohEdnyk76

And to further answering the OP's question, the cost of living would go down. With millions of illegals leaving, so many housing units would become empty, forcing landlords to lower the price. Poverty-stricken, crime-ridden neighborhoods full of illegals would return to working and middle class status.
 
Old 12-27-2015, 03:17 AM
 
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Your response is standard CD idiocy. The posts of those who can't fill CD.

No one is waiting to get their job back. The illegals have had them for over a life time. And even if you have them ready...where are they? You lose 2 or 3 million people in California. You really think there are 2 or 3 million Californians ready to jump in to those positions? Really - Actually your writings do indicate that understanding is not high on your list of qualities. Maybe you are nice to dumb animals?
Sorry, I DON'T believe the US will be worse off if ALL illegal aliens left. Too; it's a PROVEN fact that illegal aliens DO push DOWN wages.
 
Old 12-27-2015, 08:21 AM
 
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Ahem, excuse me. OldGlory is one of the most knowledgable and intelligent members here. If I could only rep OldGlory for right-on responses and ones that make me think and sometimes challenge my opinions.

Well, thank you, Annie!
 
Old 12-27-2015, 08:33 AM
 
Location: Kansas
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Your response is standard CD idiocy. The posts of those who can't fill CD.

No one is waiting to get their job back. The illegals have had them for over a life time. And even if you have them ready...where are they? You lose 2 or 3 million people in California. You really think there are 2 or 3 million Californians ready to jump in to those positions? Really - Actually your writings do indicate that understanding is not high on your list of qualities. Maybe you are nice to dumb animals?
You either couldn't understand the article I linked to or didn't bother to look at it. Go ahead and dwell in the house of "ignorance is bliss" if you must.

California would be so blessed by the illegals leaving. As I suspected: The Impact Of Illegal Immigration On California’s Drought Emergency – Downtrend and The Fiscal Burden of Illegal Immigration on California Taxpayers (2014)

Dreamers dream on. Illegal immigration is a plague to the US and it must and will end.
 
Old 12-27-2015, 08:44 AM
 
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Your response is standard CD idiocy. The posts of those who can't fill CD.

No one is waiting to get their job back. The illegals have had them for over a life time. And even if you have them ready...where are they? You lose 2 or 3 million people in California. You really think there are 2 or 3 million Californians ready to jump in to those positions? Really - Actually your writings do indicate that understanding is not high on your list of qualities. Maybe you are nice to dumb animals?

Idiocy? Spouting the facts and using common sense is not idiocy. Ignoring them is, however. There were very few illegals working construction and landscaping a couple of decades ago for example. It was mostly Americans doing those jobs. Then illegals started to flood our borders and as their numbers increased there were far more illegals on those jobs than Americans. Americans lost those jobs to them because they worked cheaper. I am so sorry that you are denial of the truth. Your last two sentences were insulting and completely unwarranted.
 
Old 12-27-2015, 12:30 PM
 
Location: Under a bridge
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I believe many jobs would open up and wages would increase pretty rapidly. Some industries would be affected. Some businesses would shut down. Construction would be hard hit. Houses would cost more as would remodels but at the end things would work out.
 
Old 12-27-2015, 12:41 PM
 
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Idiocy? Spouting the facts and using common sense is not idiocy. Ignoring them is, however. There were very few illegals working construction and landscaping a couple of decades ago for example. It was mostly Americans doing those jobs. Then illegals started to flood our borders and as their numbers increased there were far more illegals on those jobs than Americans. Americans lost those jobs to them because they worked cheaper. I am so sorry that you are denial of the truth. Your last two sentences were insulting and completely unwarranted.
The western residential construction industry is now virtually completely Hispanic. That begun at least 50 years ago. You really think there are a whole lot of Spanish speaking white guys ready to jump in when the illegals are deported? The vast majority of those workers are Hispanic and legal.

Any change that removes millions of consumers is going to badly impact the economy for some years.

So basically if you can do an impossible task you will succeed in bombing the econony.
 
Old 12-27-2015, 01:13 PM
 
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You either couldn't understand the article I linked to or didn't bother to look at it. Go ahead and dwell in the house of "ignorance is bliss" if you must.

California would be so blessed by the illegals leaving. As I suspected: The Impact Of Illegal Immigration On California’s Drought Emergency – Downtrend and The Fiscal Burden of Illegal Immigration on California Taxpayers (2014)



Dreamers dream on. Illegal immigration is a plague to the US and it must and will end.
Did you actually read the article from Buzzfeed? It actually does not belong in this forum as it deals entirely with legal aliens.


Water in California is basically dominated by agricultural use...a major employer of illegal aliens. The children of illegals are full fledged US citizens with all rights of such. This poor publication obviously does not understand even basic US laws. Why on earth would anyone quote their racist tinged article?
 
Old 12-27-2015, 01:23 PM
 
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The western residential construction industry is now virtually completely Hispanic. That begun at least 50 years ago. You really think there are a whole lot of Spanish speaking white guys ready to jump in when the illegals are deported? The vast majority of those workers are Hispanic and legal.

Any change that removes millions of consumers is going to badly impact the economy for some years.

So basically if you can do an impossible task you will succeed in bombing the econony.
Def time to test your opinion here. So things MIGHT be tight for a year or 2; we'll get over it.
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