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Old 02-12-2008, 08:07 PM
 
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Ah, not by design (as you are attempting to imply) -

If it hadn't been policy, it wouldn't be as it was....

I don't have to imply anything.....

Throughout our short history, our government has pointed to our open borders when they have criticized other nations for having closed borders.

As much as you might like to think stating reality puts me in a box of your making, ...it seems you just can't seem to address the topic at hand,

you'd rather resort to making unfounded inferences, and ignore addressing any reality that is uncomfortable for you.
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Old 02-12-2008, 08:16 PM
 
Location: Pinal County, Arizona
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If it hadn't been policy, it wouldn't be as it was....

I don't have to imply anything.....
You were clearly trying to imply that we have had "open borders".

Clearly, you are wrong.

There is a combination of physical fence and virtual fence -

There are additional border patrol agents on the border - and more to come over 2008

Increased deportations are, in fact, occuring

And increasing number of states are enacting employer sanctions laws

And increasing number of states are reducing, or eliminating state sponsored / funded assistance programs for illegals (including housing, medical, education)

It will take a combination of efforts to start getting a real handle on the illegal immigration issue -
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Old 02-12-2008, 08:33 PM
 
Location: Helena, Montana
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Anarchy?

Our country has had an open border for a very long time,

....how do you figure that should, or could equate, to anarchy?
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20 million people breaking the law, plus millions more supporting people breaking the law, is anarchy. A fence or military presence is necessary.
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Old 02-12-2008, 08:43 PM
 
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20 million people breaking the law, plus millions more supporting people breaking the law, is anarchy. A fence or military presence is necessary.
Seems to me the government is supporting breaking the law,

....that's not anarchy.....
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Old 02-12-2008, 09:04 PM
 
Location: Helena, Montana
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Seems to me the government is supporting breaking the law,

....that's not anarchy.....
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No, that's greed. Corrupt politicians taking money from big businesses who profit of the slave labor of illegals, and in turn the politicians push legislation for keeping illegals here and giving them benefits. These same politicians care more about lining their pockets then the welfare of America and it's citizens.
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Old 02-13-2008, 03:51 AM
 
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we do not have open borders..
the illegal criminals choose to SNEAK over in
the dead of night. Anyone with half a brain
can see that if we "did" have what would be
an open-border.. don't you think these mexican
criminals would be walking over without any
worry of getting caught! They know they are
NOT allowed to do so, they know it is illegal.. but
they do it anyway. Why do think we have
(FREEBEE amnesty) illegal mexicans and FREEBEE anchors..
most of the mexicans here now.. who are legal via a
peice of amnesty paper.. were ALL once part of the SAME
illegal mexican criminals who slithered across our border
in the dead of night.. now they want to get the rest of
the family over the border the SAME way. There are many
mexicans via amnesty who are harboring mexican illegals..
so they are STILL criminals providing more easy oppertunities
for the rest of their slithering illegal mexican laraza pals.
We do NOT have a LEGAL open border.. what we have is
millions of mexicans who keep breaking federal laws. Nothing
but a bunch of thieves.. stealing the right of those who
DO go thru the proper LEGAL channels to get here!
brut force to control our border is and will be the only thing
these thieving criminals will understand!
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Old 02-13-2008, 12:51 PM
 
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Seems to me the government is supporting breaking the law,

....that's not anarchy.....
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Wrong again.

A government's position is irrelevant. Wholesale non-enforcement of law is equivalent to no law, which, by definition, is anarchy.
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Old 02-14-2008, 09:36 PM
 
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we do not have open borders..
the illegal criminals choose to SNEAK over in
the dead of night. Anyone with half a brain
can see that if we "did" have what would be
an open-border.. don't you think these mexican
criminals would be walking over without any
worry of getting caught! They know they are
NOT allowed to do so, they know it is illegal.. but
they do it anyway. Why do think we have
(FREEBEE amnesty) illegal mexicans and FREEBEE anchors..
most of the mexicans here now.. who are legal via a
peice of amnesty paper.. were ALL once part of the SAME
illegal mexican criminals who slithered across our border
in the dead of night.. now they want to get the rest of
the family over the border the SAME way. There are many
mexicans via amnesty who are harboring mexican illegals..
so they are STILL criminals providing more easy oppertunities
for the rest of their slithering illegal mexican laraza pals.
We do NOT have a LEGAL open border.. what we have is
millions of mexicans who keep breaking federal laws. Nothing
but a bunch of thieves.. stealing the right of those who
DO go thru the proper LEGAL channels to get here!
brut force to control our border is and will be the only thing
these thieving criminals will understand!

Crminals, thiefs, illegals are you talking about the americans that go south to establish drug production and trade with our neighbors down south or are you
so naive to beleive that the latin americans came up with the great idea of cultivating drugs and create a market up north, the reality is the the a huge
amount of americans have a lot of appetite for drugs which promotes this activity and is a lot of americans involved in it, this people down south are not that stupid, they may live around the cocaine and pot growing regions
and never feel a need to use drugs, more recently OUR CYNISM has grown to the point that we acusse Mexicans of producing large amounts of methamphetamine, a drug that we invented and has destroyed numerous neighbohoods in the US, HA,HA now we also blame the mexicans, can we be any more F*** up than that, we also have the highest number by far of sexual predators, and serial killers, are we going to blame the mexicans,
they must be praying for this fence to be built so that all this stuff we do
stop contaminating them.
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Old 02-15-2008, 09:32 AM
 
Location: Pa
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Crminals, thiefs, illegals are you talking about the americans that go south to establish drug production and trade with our neighbors down south or are you
so naive to beleive that the latin americans came up with the great idea of cultivating drugs and create a market up north, the reality is the the a huge
amount of americans have a lot of appetite for drugs which promotes this activity and is a lot of americans involved in it, this people down south are not that stupid, they may live around the cocaine and pot growing regions
and never feel a need to use drugs, more recently OUR CYNISM has grown to the point that we acusse Mexicans of producing large amounts of methamphetamine, a drug that we invented and has destroyed numerous neighbohoods in the US, HA,HA now we also blame the mexicans, can we be any more F*** up than that, we also have the highest number by far of sexual predators, and serial killers, are we going to blame the mexicans,
they must be praying for this fence to be built so that all this stuff we do
stop contaminating them.
What if anything does your post have to do with securing our borders? What does it have to do with the millions sneaking into our country? If we had a real secure border ie a fence that is heavily patroled it would eliminate the border as an open door for illegals to sneak in. It would eliminate it as an easy route for drug trade. Its a win win deal.
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Old 02-15-2008, 09:34 AM
 
Location: Arizona
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What if anything does your post have to do with securing our borders? What does it have to do with the millions sneaking into our country? If we had a real secure border ie a fence that is heavily patroled it would eliminate the border as an open door for illegals to sneak in. It would eliminate it as an easy route for drug trade. Its a win win deal.
STOP IT!! No logical posts are allowed in this forum, only senseless defense of 'the poor immigrants' can be posted here!

Didn't you get the memo??
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