What Illegal Immigration Costs Black People (born, law, Mexican, regular)

[crittersitter]

Illegals are costing ALL legal US citizens and in a very big way.

[maco81]

[quote=Alanboy395;2736560]look here, idk what is going on in the rest of the country. But in Hampton Roads, VA a booming (illegal) Latino population is costing black folks their jobs and their neighborhoods. Crime is going up like crazy (more illegals and black youth are turning to gangs b/c they have fewer blue-collar opportunties) and if there is one area on the east coast that can't afford to lose blue-collar jobs to illegals it is Hampton Roads.

Trust me, illegals are costing everybody INCLUDING BLACKS. If Black people really wanted the kind ofjobs these so called illegal aliens are taking then they too would be out there on the side of the road like these people. what i have personally seen is no black people even attempting to accept a job that latinos are willing to take. how many black folk do you see picking grapes in california, or onions in the rio grande valley in texas? the truth is that these immigrants aren't taking anyone's job because they are taking the jobs no one else wants!

[maco81]

No one Should be called illegal. Black people don't want certain words to refer to them, latinos don't need Illegal to refer to them. to call a latino illegal is not only degrading but racist as well. so the next time a black person refers to an immigrant as illegal, remember how it feels to be called a word you don't like

[maco81]

Originally Posted by SimpleMan

I don't think this is limited to any race, what this is about is the fact that there are poor, uneducated Americans of ALL RACES losing jobs or not being able to get a job because of illegal immigrants. What you're saying is the poor, uneducated Illegals have more rights to American jobs than poor, uneducated AMERICANS. Do you not see something wrong with that?

It's not immigrants costing "Americans" jobs, it's the lack of determination to go out and find a job. I want to see more of these "Americans" out there in the side of the streets fighting to get a job that other "Americans" don't want to pay a decent wage to do. the lost of jobs to immigrants is a result of people expecting great pay and Employers offering a pathetic wage. These immigrants have no choice but to accept these jobs. And if uneducated Americans are losing there jobs or unable to get a job then it's their own fault. If you are a poor, uneducated american then it seems you don't have any other choice but to accept low paying jobs like the immigrants do. But the problems is they don't.

[SimpleMan]

Originally Posted by maco81

It's not immigrants costing "Americans" jobs, it's the lack of determination to go out and find a job. I want to see more of these "Americans" out there in the side of the streets fighting to get a job that other "Americans" don't want to pay a decent wage to do. the lost of jobs to immigrants is a result of people expecting great pay and Employers offering a pathetic wage. These immigrants have no choice but to accept these jobs. And if uneducated Americans are losing there jobs or unable to get a job then it's their own fault. If you are a poor, uneducated american then it seems you don't have any other choice but to accept low paying jobs like the immigrants do. But the problems is they don't.

You happen to be quite ignorant as to what jobs are being taken. Are Americans lining up to pick produce? No. But if you honestly think in the areas of construction or factory work where illegals have either lowballed their way in or depressed wages to the point where the average American who pays taxes, insurance and other things illegals don't have to pay, to the point where the wage for a law abiding American is no longer livable, then you dilusional. By the way, since they ignored the immigration laws of this country, and are here ILLEGALLY, then illegals are exactly what they are, and I really don't care who finds the term offensive. You might want to do a search and do some reading before you start presenting the "illegals only take jobs Americans don't want" or any other tired argument the pro-illegal side has used. You should be ashamed of yourself for saying that ANY American DESERVES to have his job taken by an illegal.

[GuyPinestra]

Originally Posted by maco81

No one Should be called illegal. Black people don't want certain words to refer to them, latinos don't need Illegal to refer to them. to call a latino illegal is not only degrading but racist as well. so the next time a black person refers to an immigrant as illegal, remember how it feels to be called a word you don't like

How can it be degrading if you call a criminal a criminal? Crossing the border without written permission from the American government is ILLEGAL, against the law, a big no-no, wrong, morally bankrupt and not very nice, to boot. And race doesn't even come into play here. Is there a racial connotation that goes along with the term illegal? I don't think so, unless it's your guilty conscience coming into play...

[ProLogic]

Originally Posted by GuyPinestra

How can it be degrading if you call a criminal a criminal? Crossing the border without written permission from the American government is ILLEGAL, against the law, a big no-no, wrong, morally bankrupt and not very nice, to boot. And race doesn't even come into play here. Is there a racial connotation that goes along with the term illegal? I don't think so, unless it's your guilty conscience coming into play...

I'd like to point out you can get fined for J-walking. That is essentially what illegals are doing when crossing into the U.S.

[SimpleMan]

Originally Posted by ProLogic

I'd like to point out you can get fined for J-walking. That is essentially what illegals are doing when crossing into the U.S.

So you have no problem with a stranger/rapist/murderer walking right into your house without permission? I mean he's just j-walking across property lines.

[floridasandy]

Originally Posted by maco81

It's not immigrants costing "Americans" jobs, it's the lack of determination to go out and find a job. I want to see more of these "Americans" out there in the side of the streets fighting to get a job that other "Americans" don't want to pay a decent wage to do. the lost of jobs to immigrants is a result of people expecting great pay and Employers offering a pathetic wage. These immigrants have no choice but to accept these jobs. And if uneducated Americans are losing there jobs or unable to get a job then it's their own fault. If you are a poor, uneducated american then it seems you don't have any other choice but to accept low paying jobs like the immigrants do. But the problems is they don't.

hopefully it is that kind of arrogance that will wake americans up to the illegal immigrant agenda, even if they are not directly impacted now. this is the future for all of us! thank you for spelling it out to the so-called "lazy americans".

[floridasandy]

Originally Posted by maco81

No one Should be called illegal. Black people don't want certain words to refer to them, latinos don't need Illegal to refer to them. to call a latino illegal is not only degrading but racist as well. so the next time a black person refers to an immigrant as illegal, remember how it feels to be called a word you don't like

black people certainly do not have a problem with being called black, but i certainly see that illegal immigrants have trouble with the word illegal. if you are attaching the latino label to illegal, then maybe you are the racist.