What Illegal Immigration Costs Black People (green card, McCain, medical, visas)

[ArizonaBear]

Originally Posted by maco81

No one Should be called illegal. Black people don't want certain words to refer to them, latinos don't need Illegal to refer to them. to call a latino illegal is not only degrading but racist as well. so the next time a black person refers to an immigrant as illegal, remember how it feels to be called a word you don't like

FYI:

An illegal immigrant of any race/ethnicity is just that--------illegal AKA a lawbreaker.

Besides: there is no Hispanic race-------a Mexican, Argentine, etc. can range from Nordic White to Black.

[EarthMother1951]

Originally Posted by maco81

No one Should be called illegal. Black people don't want certain words to refer to them, latinos don't need Illegal to refer to them. to call a latino illegal is not only degrading but racist as well. so the next time a black person refers to an immigrant as illegal, remember how it feels to be called a word you don't like

No matter what is the ethnic or racial background, ILLEGAL is illegal and they should called just that if they are. Then they should be deported.

[EarthMother1951]

Originally Posted by ProLogic

I'd like to point out you can get fined for J-walking. That is essentially what illegals are doing when crossing into the U.S.

Of course, once they have been deported and then they come back they are felons. Then one must not forget that even the ones who have not been deported commit felonies to stay and work so they are criminals and nothing else.

[macmeal]

Aren't Black people just "people"? If they're American citizens, isn't illegal immigration "costing" them the same thing it's costing "regular" people, who are ALSO American citizens? Do black people have a different relationship with illegals than OTHER people?.....

[macmeal]

Originally Posted by maco81

No one Should be called illegal. Black people don't want certain words to refer to them, latinos don't need Illegal to refer to them. to call a latino illegal is not only degrading but racist as well. so the next time a black person refers to an immigrant as illegal, remember how it feels to be called a word you don't like

I'm missing something here. Most of my extended family could be arguably called "latino"---or certainly "non-white". None of them, to my knowledge, are called 'illegals'.
What does 'illegal" have to do with any 'slur' against latinos? "Illegal" refers to one's LEGAL status, not his ethnicity. There are plenty of people doing "illegal" things all day long, most of them NOT latino at ALL. And MOST 'latinos' that I know, are quite 'legal' in their behavior.

Surely you're not suggesting that "terrorist" is automatically a slur against Arabic Americans--are you? Is the term "racist" a code-word for Whites? How about "Gang-bangers"...what ethnic group is THAT a 'smear' against.(if any)?

I don't see the slur....sorry.

[LOGIC]

Guess What?? When You Illegals Cross That Border You See Americans. Black And White. Real Citizens. Don't Play Dumb.

[ProLogic]

Originally Posted by LOGIC

Guess What?? When You Illegals Cross That Border You See Americans. Black And White. Real Citizens. Don't Play Dumb.

What about Brown Americans, real citizens? Thats me (Technically mocha latte with a lot of vanilla). You also see Asian Citizens. And citizens of all kinds of ethnicities and heritages. You don't even know what the hell your talking about.

[LovelyinLa]

Originally Posted by maco81

No one Should be called illegal. Black people don't want certain words to refer to them, latinos don't need Illegal to refer to them. to call a latino illegal is not only degrading but racist as well. so the next time a black person refers to an immigrant as illegal, remember how it feels to be called a word you don't like

This is quite possibly the how can I say this and not be offensive. Let me just say it's the opposite of smart. There's entirely too many things wrong with this statement that it impossible to hit on all of them, but here's a few:

1. A person in this country illegally, is an illegal alien. This is not a name that African Americans gave them, it's the name that the Government, Law Enforcement has given them. Because after all, they're here illegally hence the name. BTW, illegal = criminal.

2. No one has said that the term illegal alien should only refer to Latinos. You said that. I agree that would be racist to say that all illegal aliens are Latinos but you have to admit, out of the entire illegal alien population Latinos do make up for at least over 90% of them. At least they do here in LA.

3. Illegal aliens getting upset over being called illegal, are you serious. I'm sure there a lots of criminals who get upset by being called what they are (rapists, murderers, child molestors etc.). What's your point? You are what you are. BTW, they weren't born illegal aliens, this was something they willingly chose. To get mad at someone calling them that is arrogance beyond belief.

4. You can't be comparing the "N" word to the term "illegal aliens". Please tell me you're not. That just pushes your level of ignorance out there into the heavens. Seriously did you think about this before you posted it. It makes no sense at all.

[ProLogic]

What do illegal immigrants want us to call them? Refugees?!? Let's get real. Some are... if they are from Mexico, they most likely aren't.

[Bhaalspawn]

Originally Posted by johndoeboy

But black people were throwned into inner cities way before the immigration issue became as big as it is. There are studies that show if you have a black sounding name. There is a 50% chance you won't get a call back for a interview. That has nothing to do with immigration but racism and prejudice.

If you owned a business and depended on it for your income and had everything you owned and your family's future invested in it, would you want to hire someone whom you sincerely believed had a greater chance of being a bad employee?

Why do you think employers harbor this racism if it's irrational? If black employees were more profitable, in general, than white employees then couldn't some businesses make a killing by hiring only black employees? Is there a small chance that the discrimination might have a basis in reality? Perhaps those blacks who have African-sounding names or at least names that stick out, such as Lawanda, Poowana, Islam, Tayshaun aren't particularly profitable as a result of the probability that they were indoctrinated with "African culture" or inner city, ghetto culture?

I'm not saying that any of it is true. I think that everyone deserves to be evaluated on an individual, merit-based basis. However, I just wanted to pose the questions and get the issues out there. I suspect that in the real, business world, there's a big difference between idealism and practicality.