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I have asked my congress people about why Obama has not been charged with treason. I got "song and dance" from them and they are Republicans. They also will not answer my email if I mention "illegals".
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Originally Posted by majesticat
Article states that the father is feeling "energized" to get more politically involved since his child is being denied a birth certificate. This burns me to no end! Why in the pluperfect heck wasn't he this energized to fight for change in his own country? Instead he crashes in here illegally and pitches a hissy. Take that "energy" back home and fight for change THERE.
If he goes home and takes the kids, who is going to support the kids? They were counting on us to do that. I can't even stand to go to the store the first 10 days of the month because they are all at the stores with their VISION cards and WIC coupons and 5 stair step kids. Then, they go load everything into their newer crew cab pickup.
Malagon: IF you're an illegal alien; just LEAVE, Ok? We DON'T owe your despicable kind a thing except 3 hots and a cot till you're deported. Period.
Child was born in the US, period. A child shouldn't be punished for the actions of their parents. I expect this law to be challenged and then struck down at some point
But the illegal actions of the parent the child caused a birth here and not his LEGAL home, where the parents true allegiance is.
If you read the ruling that keeps getting pulled out about the Japanese? parents that originally fought for a US birth certificate for their child. The parents where here on a LEGAL, UNEXPIRED visa which at the time was a grey area.
These illegals that are fighting for birth certificates do NOT fall under the above ruling, since they often don't have a UNEXPIRED visa or even a visa in the first place since they crossed in illegally. The parents nor child should be here. Period.
Is it mean? NO. Since there are plenty of immigrants waiting LEGALLY to gain admittance for a better life, that have gone thru ALL of the medical, background and means testing. Why should we as a country screw the people doing it properly because some one that failed to follow the laws of our land felt a need TO TRY to drop an anchor (baby). Sorry but the illegal parent and children need to go.
But the illegal actions of the parent the child caused a birth here and not his LEGAL home, where the parents true allegiance is.
If you read the ruling that keeps getting pulled out about the Japanese? parents that originally fought for a US birth certificate for their child. The parents where here on a LEGAL, UNEXPIRED visa which at the time was a grey area.
These illegals that are fighting for birth certificates do NOT fall under the above ruling, since they often don't have a UNEXPIRED visa or even a visa in the first place since they crossed in illegally. The parents nor child should be here. Period.
Is it mean? NO. Since there are plenty of immigrants waiting LEGALLY to gain admittance for a better life, that have gone thru ALL of the medical, background and means testing. Why should we as a country screw the people doing it properly because some one that failed to follow the laws of our land felt a need TO TRY to drop an anchor (baby). Sorry but the illegal parent and children need to go.
Sorry but as current case law stands, the US is the child's LEGAL home, no matter what you may think. Give the child their birth certificate that they have a right to.
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Child was born in the US, period. A child shouldn't be punished for the actions of their parents. I expect this law to be challenged and then struck down at some point
You do realize that children of US citizens that commit crimes often end up separated from their children. The children end up without parents often languishing in foster care home after foster care home. Should we open our prisons and let the parents go home to their children since it isn't the children's fault? Nope. A lot of kids have parents that are losers and don't take the kids into consideration.
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Sorry but as current case law stands, the US is the child's LEGAL home, no matter what you may think. Give the child their birth certificate that they have a right to.
There are rules for getting the birth certificates but, of course, if the parents followed the rules they wouldn't be here.
The legal status of the parents should be verified and deportation actions started on them. This would be a great way to start getting these people moved back to their home countries with what they thought were anchors. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...ation-defense/
I wonder if they were even born in the US or if they came in illegally with the parents in the first place.
This is just another one of those things that will help us really get deportations rolling without any additional costs.
Child was born in the US, period. A child shouldn't be punished for the actions of their parents. I expect this law to be challenged and then struck down at some point
Uh; laws CAN be changed. Look at the Dominican Republic and how they treat THEIR illegal aliens. Tho to be fair; I DO have a problem yanking birthright for people 18 years old or older.
If the US born kids of foreign diplomats DON'T get birthright: why should the US born kid of ILLEGAL aliens get it?
It's not punishing the kids for the action of their parents. How is it punishment to be deemed a citizen of their parent's homeland? Oh, the horror. Just being born here does not denote birthright citizenship as was discussed when the 14th Amendment was written. There is a qualifier clause and it is "and" subject to the jurisdiction. Neither the illegal parents nor their offspring are subject to our jurisdiction. They are only subject to obeying our laws.
I wonder how they even prove the baby/child was born in the US? I still think they should call immigration to make a pickup.
How? Because the child was born in a Dallas hospital. They have the records, you know? They don't just deliver children willy nilly with no hospital and state records.
How? Because the child was born in a Dallas hospital. They have the records, you know? They don't just deliver children willy nilly with no hospital and state records.
This is what I don't understand. Does the birth certificate actually exist or are they applying for one. I filled out paperwork in the hospital and received the birth certificate for my child in the mail. I didn't have to go and pickup a copy.
And, the illegals are not following the rules. They only want the birth certificate so they can suck off the public assistance teat. If they hold out, the illegals can be detained and deported when we start enforcing immigration law again.
The parents should be taken into custody. That is the bottom line.
Uh; laws CAN be changed. Look at the Dominican Republic and how they treat THEIR illegal aliens. Tho to be fair; I DO have a problem yanking birthright for people 18 years old or older.
If the US born kids of foreign diplomats DON'T get birthright: why should the US born kid of ILLEGAL aliens get it?
Look around you. This is the USA, not the Caribbean. Also, don't argue with me, take it up with the SCOTUS who allow that foreign diplomants are exempt from the 14th, but not ordinary people.
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You do realize that children of US citizens that commit crimes often end up separated from their children. The children end up without parents often languishing in foster care home after foster care home. Should we open our prisons and let the parents go home to their children since it isn't the children's fault? Nope. A lot of kids have parents that are losers and don't take the kids into consideration.
There are rules for getting the birth certificates but, of course, if the parents followed the rules they wouldn't be here.
The legal status of the parents should be verified and deportation actions started on them. This would be a great way to start getting these people moved back to their home countries with what they thought were anchors. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...ation-defense/
I wonder if they were even born in the US or if they came in illegally with the parents in the first place.
This is just another one of those things that will help us really get deportations rolling without any additional costs.
But, since this is in the context of illegal immigration and not US citizens breaking the law and breaking their families up, it's a false equivalency.
But, their parents didn't follow the rules. And, as it stands, every non-diplomat's child born here IS a US citizen whether you like it or not. That's just how it is. Arguing the semantics is pointless on this forum. Give the children the birth certificates they have a RIGHT to. End of story
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Then, they go load everything into their newer crew cab pickup.
