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Old 02-14-2008, 03:24 PM
 
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Actually you're wrong, you're doing a lot of ASSUMING. Florida has seen a MASSIVE influx of illegals from Central and South America, it's Cuban population has been there for decades.

There are SOME areas of Texas that have high populations of illegals, but their overall population as a percentage is MUCH lower than California, New York and North Carolina.
What if you are both wrong. The areas on the maps are popular foreign tourist and student destinations. Students are required to be tested but tourists are no. And yes

Arizon in addition to Texas does not appear on the map. Hmmm maybe it is not Mexicans that are bringing these diseases and maybe it is the "other" non Mexican illegal immigrants.
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Old 02-14-2008, 04:04 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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I never said it was 'the Mexicans'...

I said it was illegal aliens from Central and South America.

Am I STILL wrong?
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Old 02-14-2008, 08:43 PM
 
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That's 5, anyone taking bets on how long this spam artist lasts, or has (s)he already been banned???
can you handle the truth?
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Old 02-14-2008, 09:10 PM
 
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As Dustin Hoffman was famously told, "Pharmeceuticals. Go into pharmeceuticals."

and he was right!!!!
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Old 02-14-2008, 09:16 PM
 
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Since the topic is now diseases brought in by foreigners, legal or not, this map from the CDC is a bit of an eye-opener...



Notice here in America that the outbreak areas are ALL areas with a very high immigrant population. For those of you who do not know, MDR-TB is Multiple Drug Resistant, which makes it 100 times more expensive to treat than regular TB, $200,000 per case as opposed to $2,000.

Love that EMTALA, don't you??
How can that be? if these Resistant Mycobacteria enter the US illegaly wouldn't they work for less?
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Old 02-14-2008, 09:17 PM
 
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when you come from a 3rd world country, and sneak
over into the U.S. they will more than likely bring MORE
than just a bag of clothes.. many new deseases and old
ones are now coming from these illegals.

Show me the evidence
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Old 02-14-2008, 10:02 PM
 
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History tells us that Empire's are not to exist forever, our country's wealth
was built on slave work from Africa, which lasted until the 1960's with the end of apartheid in the U.S., since then we have depended more and more on
labor from our neighbors down south and so far they have done an exceptional
work, but as they too progress in the economic ladder we need to keep
importing them, U.S. largest economy is still agriculture, if you take effective
labor from the equation, agriculture will also collapse, and will follow the fate of so many other sectors of the economy where the jobs have gone abroad, soon we may even get education over the internet by folks in India or China,
I always tell my fellow Americans; be careful on what you wish for!!!!

Is this cheap labor????????

Illegals Costing US Taxpayers
More Than Iraq War
2-4-8

1. $11 Billion to $22 billion is spent on welfare to illegal aliens each year. FAIR: : Immigration and Welfare (http://tinyurl.com/zob77 - broken link)

2. $2.2 Billion dollars a year is spent on food assistance programs such as food stamps, WIC, and free school lunches for illegal aliens. http://www.cisorg/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html (broken link)

3. $2.5 Billion dollars a year is spent on Medicaid for illegal aliens. http://www.cisorg/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html (broken link)

4. $12 Billion dollars a year is spent on primary and secondary school education for children here illegally and they cannot speak a word of English http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.0.html (broken link)

5. $17 Billion dollars a year is spent for education for the American-born children of illegal aliens, known as anchor babies. CNN.com - Transcripts

6. $3 Million Dollars a DAY is spent to incarcerate illegal aliens. CNN.com - Transcripts

7. 30% percent of all Federal Prison inmates are illegal aliens. CNN.com - Transcripts

8. $90 Billion Dollars a year is spent on illegal aliens for Welfare and Social Services by the American taxpayers. http://premium.cnn.com/TRANSCIPTS/0610/29/ldt.01.html (broken link)

9. $200 Billion Dollars a year in suppressed American wages are caused by the illegal aliens. http://transcripts..cnn.com/TRANSCRI...01/ldt.01.html

10. The illegal aliens in the United States have a crime rate that's two-and-a-half times that of white non-illegal aliens. In particular, their children, are going to make a huge additional crime problem in the US. CNN.com - Transcripts

11. During the year of 2005 there were 4 to 10 MILLION illegal aliens that crossed our Southern Border also, as many as 19,500 illegal aliens from Terrorist Countries. Millions of pounds of drugs, cocaine, meth, heroin and marijuana, crossed into the U. S from the Southern border. Homeland Security Report. http://tinyurl.com/t9sht (broken link)

12 The National Policy Institute, "estimated that the total cost of mass deportation would be between $206 and $230 billion or an average cost of between $41 and $46 billion annually over a five year period."http://www.nationalpolicyinstitute.org/pdf/deportation.pdf

13. In 2006 illegal aliens sent home $45 BILLION in remittances back to their countries of origin. Wooldridge - How Much Further Into This Nightmare?

14. "The Dark Side of Illegal Immigration: Nearly One Million Sex Crimes Committed by Illegal Immigrants In The United States". http://www.drdsk.com/articleshtml (broken link)


Total cost is a whooping... $338.3 BILLION A YEAR!!!
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Old 03-04-2008, 08:16 AM
 
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Talking Logic

Thanks for showing people what this is costing. They have so many excuses. This is FACTS! Thanks!
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Old 03-04-2008, 08:37 AM
 
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Show me the evidence
You can't handle the truth!!!!
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Old 05-17-2008, 10:06 AM
 
Location: Mass
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CHEAP LABOR?
Isn’t that what the whole immigration issue is about?
Business doesn’t want to pay a decent wage.
Consumers don’t want expensive produce]
Government will tell you Americans don’t want the jobs.
But the bottom line is cheap labor. The phrase “cheap labor” is a myth, a farce, and a lie. There is no such thing as “cheap labor.”
]Take, for example, an illegal alien with a wife and five children. He takes a job for $5.00 or 6.00/hour. At that wage, with six dependents, he pays no income tax, yet at the end of the year, if he files an Income Tax Return! ………he gets an “earned income credit” of up to $3,200 free.
*He qualifies for Section 8 housing and subsidized rent.
*He qualifies for food stamps.
*He qualifies for free (no deductible, no co-pay) health care.
*His children get free breakfasts and lunches at school.

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*He requires bilingual teachers and books
*He qualifies for relief from high energy bills.
*If they are or become, aged, blind or disabled, they qualify for SSI (Social Security Income) Once qualified for SSI they can qualify for Medicare. All of this is at (our) taxpayer’s expense.
*He doesn’t worry about car insurance, life insurance, or homeowners insurance.
*Taxpayers provide Spanish language signs, bulletins and printed material.
*He and his family receive the equivalent of $20.00 to $30.00/hour in benefits.
Working Americans are lucky to have $5.00 or $6.00/hour left after paying their bills plus his own. The American taxpayers also pay for increased crime, graffiti and trash clean-up.
Cheap labor? YEAH RIGHT! Wake up people. THESE ARE THE QUESTIONS WE SHOULD BE ADDRESSING TO THE PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATES FOR EITHER PARTY AND WHEN THEY LIE TO US AND DON’T DO AS THEY SAY, WE SHOULD REPLACE THEM AT ONCE!’

]illegal aliens « TORONTO News & Views
hope this is still an open thread. I have just been told I am in need of surgery. My husband has been going weekly to the hospital for a blood test regarding coumidin. Between the two of us, the co-pays have piled up, but what bothers me most, as we are both on pensions, the illegals are right aside of us, coming in the doctor's offices, smiling, with their men and kids and more on the way, sit down, down't have to check in, get interpreters, and don't have to pay and tell you unabashedly, those who do speak English, that they come to the Hospital in the ER becasue they get everything even the medicine. free!!! It is so hard to remain charitable when you see them in the super market with the state's welfare credit card, food vouchers and even worse, the market employees speak mainly spanish or broken english. When is this going to stop? Last week a couple of illegal students were apprehended stealing air conditioners etc. and the town's insurance was used to pay for the loss and when legal students did it, they ended up in court and had to pay and do community work. When will Americans be treated equally? No insurance company should be allowed to balance bill an insured senior citizen. We cannot keep up with the incresing deductibles, co-pays and balance billing and pay for our own drugs and watch these illegals sporting cash in malls, sending cash to South America etc.
I FINALLY FIGURED OUT WHY THE AMERICAN DOLLAR IS WEAK AND THE EUROPEAN AND SOUTH AMERICAN DOLLAR IS STRONG. iT IS BECASUE THEY SENT THEIR POOR HERE TO BE SUPPORTED AND THAT IS WHY WE CAN'T MAKE WE HAVE TO SUPPORT THEIR POOR. iT IS NOT RIGHT. tHERE WILL BE A REVOLUTION BEFORE LONG.
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