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Old 02-07-2008, 02:27 PM
 
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The "American people" didn't stop anything, talk radio and their followers just bullied spineless politicians into not voting for cloture. The politicians thought these callers had strong voting power BUT they will now realize talk radio and their followers are all bark and no bite.

Not only did WE THE PEOPLE STOP SHAMNESTY and the NIGHTMARE ACT TWICE, we shut down the Washington switchboards doing it.
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Old 02-07-2008, 02:30 PM
 
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Not only did we stop SHAMNESTY and the NIGHTMARE ACT TWICE, we shut down the Washington switchboards while we were at it.
Who is we? All i know is we the people rejected all the hardliner on immigration(romney,tancredo,hunter,paul, keys)
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Old 02-07-2008, 02:31 PM
 
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Who is we? All i know is we the people rejected all the hardliner on immigration(romney,tancredo,hunter,paul, keys)

Duh . . are you really that clueless
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Old 02-07-2008, 02:37 PM
 
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Duh . . are you really that clueless
Clueless?

What hardliner got any traction that enabled them to further their agenda?

Voters have rejected all the hardliners...

Maybe you should read something besides posts on this forum....
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Old 02-07-2008, 04:12 PM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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Clueless?

What hardliner got any traction that enabled them to further their agenda?

Voters have rejected all the hardliners...

Maybe you should read something besides posts on this forum....
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Then please explain so many of us here in Arizona are smiling at the illegals fleeing here in droves.

Trust me: this state is becoming hardline against the above----------Juan McCain is not very popular here at all.
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Old 02-07-2008, 04:20 PM
 
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Then please explain so many of us here in Arizona are smiling at the illegals fleeing here in droves.

Trust me: this state is becoming hardline against the above----------Juan McCain is not very popular here at all.
Yet he won handily over romney.

Do you also know that most of the house reps and senators from Arizona support Comprehensive Immigration Reform?
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Old 02-07-2008, 04:24 PM
 
Location: Pinal County, Arizona
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Do you also know that most of the house reps and senators from Arizona support Comprehensive Immigration Reform?
Let's be clear - McCains original proposal, which was essentially amnesty, was SOUNDLY rejected by not only Arizonan's but, the rest of the country. Hence McCains clear statement that he realized he had made a mistake - that he "listened" -

McCain, and the Congressional delegation from Arizona (and other states) support of a comprehensive immigration reform does not include any form of amnesty - specifically, they support illegals returning to their country of origin and then apply to re-enter the US - on an expidited basis.

Amnesty will not fly.
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Old 02-07-2008, 04:26 PM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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Yet he won handily over romney.

Do you also know that most of the house reps and senators from Arizona support Comprehensive Immigration Reform?
Hmmmm.............please explain why the illegal immigrants, most of whom happen to be Mestizo (Hispanic) are disappearing?

I live here and am seeing the (very positive) changes) with my own two eyes

Basically: illegals are becoming persona non grata here.
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Old 02-07-2008, 04:29 PM
 
Location: Pinal County, Arizona
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Hmmmm.............please explain why the illegal immigrants, most of whom happen to be Mestizo (Hispanic) are disappearing?

I live here and am seeing the (very positive) changes) with my own two eyes

Basically: illegals are becoming persona non grata here.
There is a grade school, in the Mesa area, that HAD a substantial population of children of illegals - so many have left, they are now closing the school and the remaining students are being transferred to other locales.
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Old 02-07-2008, 04:44 PM
 
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Most american voters so far favor a comprehensive approach to immigration just like John McCain. He won easily in florida, california, arizona, oklahoma, missouri. Romney tried to take a hardline approach and failed miserably. So in the general elections, we will have both dem and McCain supporting Comprehensive Immigration Reform. I am extremely glad that the conservative talk show hosts and the followers have been exposed for being all talk but no voting power. They are seriously out of touch with the majority of the American Voters.
you are seriously out of touch with american voters if you think that they want a bunch of illegal immigrants in this country, dragging the economy down.
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