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Old 02-10-2016, 07:19 PM
 
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Why is it that it's so often repeated on here that illegals only come here because liberals refuse to enforce the border, and they come for our generous benefits? Canada is far far more liberal than the US, has WAY BETTER benefits than the US, a less xenophobic society overall, an open border almost everywhere, yet Canada has no illegal immigration crisis. If illegal immigration is a liberal problem, why is Canada seemingly immune to illegal immigration compared to the US? By some estimates I searched on Google, Canada has between 35,000-120,000 illegals. The US has 11-13 million.
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Old 02-10-2016, 07:25 PM
 
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The US directly borders the most abundant source of illegals. They have to get up through the entire country of the US to reach Canada.

Plus Canada's benefits apply only to citizens and permanent residents IIRC.
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Old 02-10-2016, 07:29 PM
 
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The US directly borders the most abundant source of illegals. They have to get up through the entire country of the US to reach Canada.

Plus Canada's benefits apply only to citizens and permanent residents IIRC.
People from the Middle East make the long trek to the UK, bypassing many countries with just as generous benefits as the UK, but cross a dozen European countries to only get to the UK. So, people still do it despite the distance

So do ours. Non-citizens and non permanent residents can't get benefits here, either
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Old 02-10-2016, 07:52 PM
 
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The US directly borders the most abundant source of illegals. They have to get up through the entire country of the US to reach Canada.

Plus Canada's benefits apply only to citizens and permanent residents IIRC.
Agreed and many Hispanics DON'T like cold weather. Too; if in Canada illegally, an alien would be deported real fast. World is Canada doesn't play well with their kind; Hispanic or NOT Hispanic. So getting busted up there after being deported then sneaking back in is probably some serious prison time.
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Old 02-10-2016, 07:53 PM
 
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People from the Middle East make the long trek to the UK, bypassing many countries with just as generous benefits as the UK, but cross a dozen European countries to only get to the UK. So, people still do it despite the distance

So do ours. Non-citizens and non permanent residents can't get benefits here, either
Def some real good questions there.
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Old 02-11-2016, 01:00 PM
 
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Def some real good questions there.
Also add to the fact that Canada also has birthright citizenship, the question becomes even more interesting. Canada already has everything the US has, and even better at that, but illegals aren't moving there in droves dying at the chance to drop an anchor, so to speak, on Canadian soil.
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Old 02-11-2016, 01:29 PM
 
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Illegal aliens get benefits through fraud and their anchor babies.
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Old 02-11-2016, 05:18 PM
 
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Illegal aliens get benefits through fraud and their anchor babies.
They can get far better in Canada. They have much more generous welfare systems than we do here. It's as if you didn't read the OP Canada has birthright citizenship like the US does, but for every illegal that Canada gets, 100-1000 go to the US
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Old 02-11-2016, 06:22 PM
 
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A while back (either when Clinton was president or GW Bush) one year there was talk about cracking down on illegals (all it turned out to be was talk). When that happened, some illegals freaked out and went to Canada---and the Canadians let them in. Once the rest of the illegals realized that it was nothing more than empty talk, they just stayed here.
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Old 02-11-2016, 06:48 PM
 
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People from the Middle East make the long trek to the UK, bypassing many countries with just as generous benefits as the UK, but cross a dozen European countries to only get to the UK. So, people still do it despite the distance

So do ours. Non-citizens and non permanent residents can't get benefits here, either
Welfare Use by Immigrant and Native Households | Center for Immigration Studies
Illegal, but Not Undocumented | Center for Immigration Studies
Senate report: Illegal immigrants benefited from up to $750M in ObamaCare subsidies | Fox News
Medicaid Helps Hospitals Pay For Illegal Immigrants’ Care | Kaiser Health News
SCHIP Bill Increases Illegal Immigrants' Access to Medicaid and Undermines Welfare Reform


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They can get far better in Canada. They have much more generous welfare systems than we do here. It's as if you didn't read the OP Canada has birthright citizenship like the US does, but for every illegal that Canada gets, 100-1000 go to the US
But the pervs can get away with sexual assault here: Report: Released Illegal Aliens Rapists Not Tracked or Registered as Sex Offenders

No right to government healthcare: Illegal immigrant has no right to government health care, court rules - The Globe and Mail

And, I don't really care what Canada does with them or not. In Canada they are not considered criminals but here, they are. I support Trump as the best candidate to curb this crime wave.
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