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Old 02-26-2016, 05:00 PM
 
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Here in Virginia, we have a law about driving on a suspended license, AND driving without insurance.

If you are driving, and either of those above conditions apply to you, and someone hits YOU, then you have no recourse.

Even if the other driver was 100 % at fault under normal circumstances, that driver is still off the hook.

The grounds for this are simple:

You shouldn't have been there to hit.

This applies perfectly to illegal immigrants who are "victims" of crime.

You shouldn't have been here to have a crime committed against.

No, it is not unconstitutional for States to do this, as nearly ALL laws are State laws, not federal. The Constitution gives the Federal Government ZERO power to force a State to enforce their own laws that aren't also federal laws.

But liberal justices regularly commit treachery by legislating from the bench, so perhaps the Scoutus declares it unconstitutional anyway.

Um, okay?

All States have to do is tell county and city prosecutors that there will be no funding for them if they prosecute cases of crime against illegal immigrants, and the federal government will have power enough to cry into their pillows about that.

 
Old 03-01-2016, 01:01 PM
 
Location: South Portland, ME
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Or we could just do the decent thing and give them citizenship so that they have the same rights as everyone else.
 
Old 03-01-2016, 02:53 PM
 
Location: Kansas
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Or we could just do the decent thing and give them citizenship so that they have the same rights as everyone else.
They are criminals. Do you want to forgive all non-violent crimes? We have over a million US citizens that have committed non-violent crimes in prison, so you would like them released also.

Tell you what, you raise the costs of amnesty instead of milking the taxpayers and we'll talk, will that be a check or money order for 6.3 trillion?

https://www.myheritage.org/news/the-...-6-3-trillion/

Also, we'll need additional funds from you for the homeless, veterans services, public schools, the disabled, the elderly, all of those groups that suffer because of all the illegals and their anchors sucking the public assistance teat dry.
 
Old 03-01-2016, 03:47 PM
 
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It's not the decent thing to do by giving them our citizenship. They had no respect for our immigration laws, took jobs they weren't entitled to and used either fake or stolen ID's to do so or got paid cash evading taxes. Those are felonies! It's not the decent thing to do for our own citizens either. Our citizens need their jobs back from them at a fair wage. Since when does it make sense to reward law breakers especially those in our country illegally? Does our citizenship mean nothing? Is it just a joke to be mocked at?
 
Old 03-01-2016, 04:38 PM
 
Location: Secure Bunker
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Or we could just do the decent thing and give them citizenship so that they have the same rights as everyone else.
Citizenship is EARNED, not gifted. And driving is a PRIVILEGE, not a right.
 
Old 03-01-2016, 05:11 PM
 
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Or we could just do the decent thing and give them citizenship so that they have the same rights as everyone else.
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Citizenship is EARNED, not gifted. And driving is a PRIVILEGE, not a right.
Ok; what gives ILLEGAL aliens the "right" to cut in front of people who did the right things to come here? The decent thing to do would be to lock up any known illegal alien on sight, hold with NO bail, then deportation with a 10 year ban on ever setting foot in the US again. Period.
 
Old 03-01-2016, 06:23 PM
 
Location: the Sticks
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Or we could just do the decent thing and give them citizenship so that they have the same rights as everyone else.
That makes perfect sense!!! We should always reward unwanted behavior. That way the others who wish to braek our laws will feel empowered to do it as well. Then all those standing in line after jumping through hoops will understand just how stupid it is to obey our laws.
I know... Lets let all criminals break our laws and then we can even pay them a reward for doing it.
 
Old 03-05-2016, 08:23 PM
 
Location: San Francisco Bay Area
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That makes perfect sense!!! We should always reward unwanted behavior. That way the others who wish to braek our laws will feel empowered to do it as well. Then all those standing in line after jumping through hoops will understand just how stupid it is to obey our laws.
I know... Lets let all criminals break our laws and then we can even pay them a reward for doing it.
We already ARE paying rewards to the illegals in the form of welfare, SSI, medical services, schools, prisons, ad nauseam.
 
Old 03-07-2016, 07:07 AM
 
Location: Upstate NY
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Or we could just do the decent thing and give them citizenship so that they have the same rights as everyone else.


Um....the OP is referencing those here illegally.

There is already a "path to citizenship," as those who came (and continue to come) here legally can tell you. And conferring U.S. citizenship on those who break the law to get here, isn't it.
 
Old 03-07-2016, 01:26 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Originally Posted by Onslow View Post
Here in Virginia, we have a law about driving on a suspended license, AND driving without insurance.

If you are driving, and either of those above conditions apply to you, and someone hits YOU, then you have no recourse.

Even if the other driver was 100 % at fault under normal circumstances, that driver is still off the hook.

The grounds for this are simple:

You shouldn't have been there to hit.

This applies perfectly to illegal immigrants who are "victims" of crime.

You shouldn't have been here to have a crime committed against.

No, it is not unconstitutional for States to do this, as nearly ALL laws are State laws, not federal. The Constitution gives the Federal Government ZERO power to force a State to enforce their own laws that aren't also federal laws.

But liberal justices regularly commit treachery by legislating from the bench, so perhaps the Scoutus declares it unconstitutional anyway.

Um, okay?

All States have to do is tell county and city prosecutors that there will be no funding for them if they prosecute cases of crime against illegal immigrants, and the federal government will have power enough to cry into their pillows about that.
Illegals still have rights. If the perpetrator knows they wont be prosecuted they'll continue to pick on illegals with no recourse.
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