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Old 02-12-2008, 09:55 AM
 
Location: On my way to FLA baby !!
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Off course the president has to protect the borders, but he also has to establish some sort of legalization program for those already here. The majority of the people you are talking about rejected your stance on immigration. If they agreed with your views on immigration, they would have elected tancredo,hunter, romney or ron paul. It's okay to admit that the majority of americans don't believe in deportation.
Wrong, people are much smarter then you give them credit. People dont vote on a single issue. Three of those four would have been total failures in other areas.
The majority of the American citizens favor deportation and the next President had better listen to what the people want.
The President job is to protect us, but the laws for ilegals being here are already on the boook, illegals need to go home and come back when its your turn.
BUT, they have already broken our laws therefore are NOT eligible to file for citizenship in American because they have a criminal record!
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Old 02-12-2008, 09:58 AM
 
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If Mexico was next to China, it would have NO CHOICE but to clean up its act in a HURRY--or suffer a violent revolution. But as long as the US offers an easy "safety valve", why would anyone want to change?...
Exactly. China would resort to machine gun fire and land mines to protect its border with Mexico.
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Old 02-12-2008, 10:04 AM
 
Location: USA
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Off course the president has to protect the borders, but he also has to establish some sort of legalization program for those already here. The majority of the people you are talking about rejected your stance on immigration. If they agreed with your views on immigration, they would have elected tancredo,hunter, romney or ron paul. It's okay to admit that the majority of americans don't believe in deportation.

Sorry, but we don't elect presidents. You think you do, but the very rich, aka money, aka power, put who they want in. They let you think you elect them. But they are not going to let you put someone in who represents the common person, not the rich.
Now that you understand that part, you can understand why the government lets millions of illegals in as cheap labor.
There is nothing humanitarian about it. It is about cheap labor.
The majority of Americans do believe in deportation. But the government does not do what we want them to do. This has been going on for some time now, if you noticed.
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Old 02-12-2008, 10:13 AM
 
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Wrong, people are much smarter then you give them credit. People dont vote on a single issue. Three of those four would have been total failures in other areas.
The majority of the American citizens favor deportation and the next President had better listen to what the people want.
The President job is to protect us, but the laws for ilegals being here are already on the boook, illegals need to go home and come back when its your turn.
BUT, they have already broken our laws therefore are NOT eligible to file for citizenship in American because they have a criminal record!
LOL, being in the country illegally is not a criminal violation. If what you are saying is through then how come illegal immigrants are able to become citizens if they marry an american citizen? According to you it shouldn't be possible since they have a criminal record.
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Old 02-12-2008, 10:21 AM
 
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When did i ever say i was for mexican illegals? I wonder what your obsession with mexicans is all about? I'm not for amnesty either, i'm just looking for a common sense approach to solve this complex situation. I'm all for securing the border and punishing employers who hire illegal imigrants BUT there has to be a way to legalize the hardworking undocumented immigrants already here. We don't gain anything from deporting the hardworking,crime free undocumented immigratns.

once again.. bla bla bla bla...
of course you and no other pro's ever say anything..
of course your not for amnesty.. that is funny.
so then you MUST be for Americans? So you MUST
want ANY criminal who slithered across our border illegally deported.
You dont want amnesty.. OMG..
who are you trying to fool... look in a mirror and say that with a
straight face lol!
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Old 02-12-2008, 10:37 AM
 
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once again.. bla bla bla bla...
of course you and no other pro's ever say anything..
of course your not for amnesty.. that is funny.
so then you MUST be for Americans? So you MUST
want ANY criminal who slithered across our border illegally deported.
You dont want amnesty.. OMG..
who are you trying to fool... look in a mirror and say that with a
straight face lol!
You asked me a question and i gave you my stance on immigration. Did you want to hear something else? I say i am not for amnesty but i guess a total stranger like you knows me better than i know myself and you can even read my thoughts and say i am.
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Old 02-12-2008, 10:43 AM
 
Location: Arizona
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Isn't "legalizing those that are here" amnesty?? Really??
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Old 02-12-2008, 11:06 AM
 
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Off course the president has to protect the borders, but he also has to establish some sort of legalization program for those already here. The majority of the people you are talking about rejected your stance on immigration. If they agreed with your views on immigration, they would have elected tancredo,hunter, romney or ron paul. It's okay to admit that the majority of americans don't believe in deportation.
That is hidden wording for AMNESTY.. stand up.. say it right..
if you are not for amnesty, then you have to be for deportation?
it's either one or the other.. not "some sort"...
said the blind man to the deaf and dumb dog.
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Old 02-12-2008, 11:10 AM
 
Location: Bethesda
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NEXT PRESIDENT WILL TONE DOWN ANTI-IMMIGRATION RHETORIC - Yahoo! News (broken link)

Very good article by Cynthia Tucker who is by the way a black woman.
How is her being a black woman in any way relevant? Does it make you feel better?
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Old 02-12-2008, 11:18 AM
 
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How is her being a black woman in any way relevant? Does it make you feel better?
A lot of posters on here think anyone who favors legalization is a mexican.
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