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Old 02-13-2008, 03:36 PM
 
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Apparently, despite the public outcry every time amnesty legislation is brought up for a vote, the bid for the presidency appears to be boiling down to three pro-amnesty candidates which leads me to one conclusion.

The American people care more about American Idol than they do the leadership of this country. I'd bet my 11,000 year-old bison mandible that that more Americans can articulate the names of the Idol judges and/or contestants than can articulate the political platforms of the candidates to whom they've blindly entrusted the future of this country.
Dude---we study US history and stuff and we learned about Abraham Lincoln and George Jefferson and the Statute of Liberties and the imagination proclamation so do not say we are DUME by any means who you think your are maybe we "don't" voat but no bigy be cool
In my clas are teacher sez weshould rede so we wil learn stuff and not be "Dume" but win I anser her back she ses "dont be smart" can you dig it...

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Old 02-13-2008, 08:59 PM
 
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The title of this thread is completely inaccurate. Beyond the omission of "illegal," the only side using rhetoric is the pro-illegal side.

The tone of the anti-illegal side is simple: Stop! Get out! Go home!

That, my friends, is not rhetoric.
The title is completely accurate . There is widespread agreement on this, you might not like it but it's true. A majority of the so called "anti- illegal" groups are also against all forms of legal immigration.
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Old 02-13-2008, 11:09 PM
 
Location: Helena, Montana
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The title is completely accurate . There is widespread agreement on this, you might not like it but it's true. A majority of the so called "anti- illegal" groups are also against all forms of legal immigration.


You got a source for this claim? Or is this just your own, completely inaccurate opinion?
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Old 02-13-2008, 11:12 PM
 
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Anti ILLEGAL immigration, not anti IMMIGRATION. At what point in life does ones education derail when they cannot tell the difference between what is LEGAL and what is ILLEGAL?
Makes you wonder...

I think the interchangeability is intentional.
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Old 02-14-2008, 02:07 AM
 
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most pro's are related to illegals..
most pro's are mexican themselves..
most pro's use the cheap mexican labor force..
most pro's were ONCE illegal themselves.. (freebee amnesty)
most pro's are once again (freebee anchor babies)..
most pro's are 2nd. gen (amnesty-anchors)..
most pro's never say pro..
History tells us that Empire's are not to exist forever, our country's wealth
was built on slave work from Africa, which lasted until the 1960's with the end of apartheid in the U.S., since then we have depended more and more on
labor from our neighbors down south and so far they have done an exceptional
work, but as they too progress in the economic ladder we need to keep
importing them, U.S. largest economy is still agriculture, if you take effective
labor from the equation, agriculture will also collapse, and will follow the fate of so many other sectors of the economy where the jobs have gone abroad, soon we may even get education over the internet by folks in India or China,
I always tell my fellow Americans; be careful on what you wish for!!!!
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Old 02-14-2008, 02:24 AM
 
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History tells us that Empire's are not to exist forever, our country's wealth
was built on slave work from Africa
Eli Whitney disagrees, as he rolls in his grave. Which African slaves built Chicago? Milwaukee? Denver? Cleveland? Minneapolis? Los Angeles? San Francisco? Phoenix? Kansas City? Portland? Seattle? Boston? Poughkeepsie?
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which lasted until the 1960's with the end of apartheid in the U.S.
You seem to be confused. Apartheid was a system implemented in South Africa where minority whites ruled and segregated the majority blacks. I haven't the statistics handy, but the only state where there may have been a resemblence to this was South Carolina. Furthermore, there was no Jim Crow in any of the heavily populated northern states. Your statement is wild and fallacious.
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since then we have depended more and more on
labor from our neighbors down south and so far they have done an exceptional
work, but as they too progress in the economic ladder we need to keep
importing them, U.S. largest economy is still agriculture, if you take effective
labor from the equation, agriculture will also collapse, and will follow the fate of so many other sectors of the economy where the jobs have gone abroad, soon we may even get education over the internet by folks in India or China,
I always tell my fellow Americans; be careful on what you wish for!!!!
We? Who are we? Certainly you mean corporations and other slimy "entrepreneurs?" If you mean the American people, you are sorely mistaken.
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Old 02-14-2008, 02:28 AM
 
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The title is completely accurate . There is widespread agreement on this, you might not like it but it's true. A majority of the so called "anti- illegal" groups are also against all forms of legal immigration.
Bull.

How's that for rhetoric?
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Old 02-14-2008, 07:47 AM
 
Location: Arizona
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The title is completely accurate . There is widespread agreement on this, you might not like it but it's true. A majority of the so called "anti- illegal" groups are also against all forms of legal immigration.
I'd really be interested in seeing a source for this fallacious claim, or is it your SOP to make unfounded statements to bolster your weak, simplistic arguments?
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Old 02-14-2008, 08:50 AM
 
Location: Missouri of course
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I'd really be interested in seeing a source for this fallacious claim, or is it your SOP to make unfounded statements to bolster your weak, simplistic arguments?
BINGO!!! You hit the nail on the head.
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Old 02-14-2008, 12:19 PM
 
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The title is completely accurate . There is widespread agreement on this, you might not like it but it's true. A majority of the so called "anti- illegal" groups are also against all forms of legal immigration.
So what? Nothing wrong with that. We could use a "time out", because there are so many who are not assimilated.

WE decide who comes in, just like any other country can decide for themselves. This country has done just about everything for every other country that exists on the planet - what MORE do they want?

So, being for a moratorium on legal immigration is a bad thing? Like we need more than our 300 million?
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