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Old 03-18-2016, 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by quixotic59 View Post
And now for some facts:

Undocumented immigrants are already U.S. taxpayers.
Collectively, they paid an estimated $10.6 billion to state and local taxes in 2010, according to the Institute on Taxation and Economic Policy (ITEP), a research organization that works on tax policy issues. Contributions varied by state. In Montana they contributed $2 million. In California, more than $2.2 billion.

The truth is that undocumented immigrants contribute more in payroll taxes than they will ever consume in public benefits.
Take Social Security. According to the Social Security Administration (SSA), unauthorized immigrants -- who are not eligible to receive Social Security benefits -- have paid an eye-popping $100 billion into the fund over the past decade. As the baby boom generation ages and retires, immigrant workers are key to shoring up Social Security and counteracting the effects of the decline in U.S.-born workers paying into the system, Goss said.

Undocumented immigrants do not qualify for welfare, food stamps, Medicaid, and most other public benefits. Most of these programs require proof of legal immigration status and under the 1996 welfare law, even legal immigrants cannot receive these benefits until they have been in the United States for more than five years.

The American economy needs immigrant workers.
The belief that immigrants take jobs that can otherwise be filled by hard-working Americans has been disputed by an overwhelming number of economic research studies and data.

and finally, a most inconvenient truth:

The price tag for the Wall Street bailout is often put at $700 billion—the size of the Troubled Assets Relief Program. But TARP is just the tip of the iceberg of money paid out or set aside by the Treasury Department and Federal Reserve. In her book, It Takes a Pillage: Behind the Bailouts, Bonuses, and Backroom Deals from Washington to Wall Street, Nomi Prins uncovers the hush-hush programs and crunches the hidden numbers to calculate the shocking actual size of the bailout: $14.4 trillion and counting.
Proof please.

Too; If the US ever got serious about running off illegals, all that'd be needed is to ENFORCE the laws already on the books. Word will get out real the the US ain't playing and, most illegals WILL leave before being arrested and deported with the few hard heads laying real low because they KNOW they'd be nailed. Period.
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Old 03-19-2016, 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by gilwood View Post
1) My friend was rear ended in traffic and the rear driver just drove off.

Edit) My friend suspected the offender to be an illegal alien since he saw the driver and the car. The cop on the scene told him this is quite common in California since Illegal Aliens do not have insurance.

2) My friend talked to a cop and judge (afterwards) who both told him that they don't even bother to pursue illegal alien cases. Even when they catch an illegal alien driving, the IA can just give a false name and they just get a ticket which they don't have to pay.

3) I've lived here only 2 years and I've already met 1 proud illegal alien and 1 person who got citizenship through a false marriage.

My question is: Is it better to be an illegal alien in California? You wouldn't have to pay taxes, pay fines and basically be above the law!
Some things are very difficult to craps. A friend of mine has a family member who got in a car accident and she was at fault. The other one was an illegal and shouldn't even be here and if that person wasn't here the accident couldn't have happened. But that is not how it works and the citizen got a ticket and the illegal demanded to get the car fixed. Keep in mind illegal can get free legal advise!
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Old 03-20-2016, 04:05 PM
Location: Carmichael, CA
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California passed a law some time back saying that if you were pulled over for any reason, and you didn't have a valid driver's license, your car could be towed and held for 30 days or until you showed proof of a valid license.

The law was challenged on the basis that it was unfair to the illegals that always drove without licenses or insurance.

So the solution was to order all law enforcement to stop enforcing the law.

When the governor was pushing to allow the illegals to get drivers licenses, one of the (very quiet) reasons was that it was thought that it might resolve the majority of the hit-and-runs in the state (because they're "afraid to stop in case they get deported.")
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Old 03-20-2016, 04:28 PM
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Old 03-22-2016, 01:40 PM
Location: Texas
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Illegals are always above the law in California and the high-tax state will do anything for them. They love showering lots of tax dollars of them also.

There are so many state house and state senate members in California who have parents and grandparents that are illegals so it clouds their judgement. They represent illegals only and don't care about anyone else.

High property tax rates, High Income taxes and high sales tax just for the illegals.

I love California and they have some amazing areas. Alot of the small and medium-sized cheap inland cities are complete trash and hardly anyone lives there except illegals.

San Bernadino, Stockton, Salinas and Vallejo are close to bankruptcy or in it and completely crime-ridden dumps. But I am glad because what goes around comes around.

San Bernadino is an example of a rotten illegal infested dump. It's basically barren city with homes that are falling apart. Neighborhoods stinking of trash. Its a city that was willing to bankrupt itself just for illegals.
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