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Old 02-15-2008, 12:26 PM
 
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Hey nvxplorer let me give it a try; productivity is the net revenue production,
measured for example in dollars, per unit of time for example hours,days etc.
Pretty close, yes.
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And any way you look at it, if you are a lazy bum the output generated is going to be low when compared to a fixed unit like time.
Anyway you look at it? Try looking at it like this.

John is a hard worker. He produces 20 widgets per hour.
George is a "lazy bum." He produces only 10 widgets per hour.

John works for $20/hr.
George works for $7/hr.

Which worker has higher productivity?
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I don't understand why people fight this so much, that only contributes further to the problem. We used to be a very productive society, while maintaining a very good standard of living, now work ehtics has gone down to hell, everyone wants to make a quick buck while not making any effort, except for the one made claiming rights, whining, arguing, etc.
Why do you demonize illegals in this manner?
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That's why we need our brothers from the south, they come here work hard,
make little money, do not use government services, and do not whine!!!!,
Stop whining!
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Nowaday we overuse the claim that we support legal inmigration and hate illegal inmigration, WHAT A STUPID "CLICHE ", it means nothing, what's the difference? a piece of paper? they all have two legs, and two arms.
I agree. What's a medical degree, anyway? It's a damn piece of paper! What a stoopid requirement.
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I"ll give you an example of why is so stupid to passinately defend legal inmigration;
- a lot of people are granted legal status based on political persecution, after
the conflict in the balcans we gave refugee status to thousands of bosnians,
many of them were taken to central NY state, well it has been more than ten years and the majority of this people have never worked, receive all kinds
of assistance from the government, and use the system at will, Is this what we need, we most to be the biggest idiots in the world, in contrast the
hispanic workers come here on their own, work harder than anyone, hardly
ever use government services or health services, it's a win-win situation.
We should all rejoice every time one of these workers cross the border to come here and help us with our problems.
White people suck!

Brown people rock!
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Old 02-15-2008, 12:40 PM
 
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Originally Posted by osomd1 View Post
Hey nvxplorer let me give it a try; productivity is the net revenue production,
measured for example in dollars, per unit of time for example hours,days etc.
And any way you look at it, if you are a lazy bum the output generated is going to be low when compared to a fixed unit like time.
I don't understand why people fight this so much, that only contributes further to the problem. We used to be a very productive society, while maintaining a very good standard of living, now work ehtics has gone down to hell, everyone wants to make a quick buck while not making any effort, except for the one made claiming rights, whining, arguing, etc.
That's why we need our brothers from the south, they come here work hard,
make little money, do not use government services, and do not whine!!!!,
Nowaday we overuse the claim that we support legal inmigration and hate illegal inmigration, WHAT A STUPID "CLICHE ", it means nothing, what's the difference? a piece of paper? they all have two legs, and two arms.
I"ll give you an example of why is so stupid to passinately defend legal inmigration;
- a lot of people are granted legal status based on political persecution, after
the conflict in the balcans we gave refugee status to thousands of bosnians,
many of them were taken to central NY state, well it has been more than ten years and the majority of this people have never worked, receive all kinds
of assistance from the government, and use the system at will, Is this what we need, we most to be the biggest idiots in the world, in contrast the
hispanic workers come here on their own, work harder than anyone, hardly
ever use government services or health services, it's a win-win situation.
We should all rejoice every time one of these workers cross the border to come here and help us with our problems.
and what planet are you on?
Don't whine.. what about waving mexico flags and protesting
in OUR streets.. They dont use healthcare? What about the illegal
mommies who get pregnant only to slither over here... come to
an AMERICAN hospital just to spit-out that kid! Then we have years
of welfare benifits for that kid...

Last edited by Arizona Bound; 02-15-2008 at 12:54 PM..
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Old 02-15-2008, 06:29 PM
 
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Originally Posted by nvxplorer View Post
Pretty close, yes.

Anyway you look at it? Try looking at it like this.

John is a hard worker. He produces 20 widgets per hour.
George is a "lazy bum." He produces only 10 widgets per hour.

John works for $20/hr.
George works for $7/hr.

Which worker has higher productivity?

Why do you demonize illegals in this manner?

Stop whining!

I agree. What's a medical degree, anyway? It's a damn piece of paper! What a stoopid requirement.

White people suck!



Brown people rock!
Dear nvxplorer; you were doing so well until your last comment, its not about
all good or all bad, its about working together towards a common goal.
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Old 02-15-2008, 06:49 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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I don't think there can be a 'common goal' between a pro-illegal symp and an anti-illegal patriot. The two seem to be mutually exclusive, IMHO.
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Old 02-15-2008, 07:42 PM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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I agree my friend, and I hope we learm from this because things are only
going to get worse.
For the illegals; definitely.

As for the economy; we are due for a recession as it is.......and, will recover
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Old 02-15-2008, 10:02 PM
 
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For the illegals; definitely.

As for the economy; we are due for a recession as it is.......and, will recover
not without the inmigrant workers
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Old 02-15-2008, 10:26 PM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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not without the inmigrant workers
legal immigrants, maybe.

illegal immigrants are not needed and certainly will not be wanted------if anything; there will be a larger pool of US citizens/green card holders to do the 'scut work'.
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Old 02-16-2008, 02:04 PM
 
Location: California
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legal immigrants, maybe.

illegal immigrants are not needed and certainly will not be wanted------if anything; there will be a larger pool of US citizens/green card holders to do the 'scut work'.
Maybe? Your against Legal immigrants now? You surprise me every day.
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Old 02-16-2008, 02:53 PM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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Maybe? Your against Legal immigrants now? You surprise me every day.
I was being rhetorical whether legal immigrants would be necessary to build up the economy--although their help would be appreciated Legal immigrant=green card holder.

Read that I certainly do not believe in deporting those folks who played it by the rules.

My opinion against illegal ones still stands.
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Old 02-16-2008, 03:10 PM
 
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Maybe? Your against Legal immigrants now? You surprise me every day.
MAJOR FLIP-FLOP
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