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Old 06-05-2016, 09:16 PM
 
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Proof please that being a "Hispanic" person blocks getting arrested IF in the US illegally.

Regulations? E verify IS the law. Period.
How can you play so hard in this arena and understand so little.

Yes an illegal is always subject to arrest if in that portion of the illegals the government chooses to pursue. No if he or she is not.

Simple...memorize it.

Hispanic is an ethnic group and a protected class. One can be both protected and subject to arrest at the same time. That does not however imply you will be arrested.

You also do not understand EVerify. It simply determines whether you can work or not. And it is not definitive. And you cannot be arrested or deported fof failing EVerify.
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Old 06-06-2016, 06:59 AM
 
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How can you play so hard in this arena and understand so little.

Yes an illegal is always subject to arrest if in that portion of the illegals the government chooses to pursue. No if he or she is not.

Simple...memorize it.

Hispanic is an ethnic group and a protected class. One can be both protected and subject to arrest at the same time. That does not however imply you will be arrested.

You also do not understand EVerify. It simply determines whether you can work or not. And it is not definitive. And you cannot be arrested or deported fof failing EVerify.
Thanks for answering my question, you CAN'T so you try to deflect.
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Old 06-06-2016, 10:56 AM
 
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Thanks for answering my question, you CAN'T so you try to deflect.

Yes an illegal is always subject to arrest if in that portion of the illegals the government chooses to pursue. No if he or she is not.

An Hispanic illegal is the same.

Something there you do not understand?
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Old 06-06-2016, 12:27 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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How can you play so hard in this arena and understand so little.

Yes an illegal is always subject to arrest if in that portion of the illegals the government chooses to pursue. No if he or she is not.

Simple...memorize it.

Hispanic is an ethnic group and a protected class. One can be both protected and subject to arrest at the same time. That does not however imply you will be arrested.

You also do not understand EVerify. It simply determines whether you can work or not. And it is not definitive. And you cannot be arrested or deported fof failing EVerify.
That is NOT how protected class status works at all. It means it is unlawful to refuse to rent/sell a home or evict someone because they are Hispanic, or take race or ethnicity into account when conducting financial or legal dealings. And if someone feels they were denied solely because of their race, the onus is on them to prove it. The law does not say if a disproportionate number of people affected by a policy happen to be of a certain ethnic group, then they're above the law and get to skirt that policy.
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Old 06-06-2016, 12:38 PM
 
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That is NOT how protected class status works at all. It means it is unlawful to refuse to rent/sell a home or evict someone because they are Hispanic, or take race or ethnicity into account when conducting financial or legal dealings. And if someone feels they were denied solely because of their race, the onus is on them to prove it. The law does not say if a disproportionate number of people affected by a policy happen to be of a certain ethnic group, then they're above the law and get to skirt that policy.
Nope. Disparate impact is recognized as an indication of ethnic bias. Simple as that.

Here is a recent discussion of the SCOTUS case on the subject.

http://www.scotusblog.com/2015/06/di...plain-english/
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Old 06-06-2016, 03:11 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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Nope. Disparate impact is recognized as an indication of ethnic bias. Simple as that.

Here is a recent discussion of the SCOTUS case on the subject.

Disparate-impact claims survive challenge: In Plain English : SCOTUSblog
Nope. Context matters. Disparate impact has been used to investigate cases to find out if racial/ethnic bias has played a role in punitive behavior, e.g. school suspensions or criminal sentencing. It's also considered in cases like the Wells Fargo subprime mortgage fiasco, but that's not a case of the plaintiffs breaking the law to begin with. By your logic, anyone non-white, female, disabled, or gay is allowed to break the law because we have anti-discrimination laws against those groups. The only difference ethnicity makes in this case would be if the landlord allowed non-Hispanic illegal aliens to stay on the property while kicking out Hispanic ones.
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Old 06-06-2016, 04:58 PM
 
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Nope. Context matters. Disparate impact has been used to investigate cases to find out if racial/ethnic bias has played a role in punitive behavior, e.g. school suspensions or criminal sentencing. It's also considered in cases like the Wells Fargo subprime mortgage fiasco, but that's not a case of the plaintiffs breaking the law to begin with. By your logic, anyone non-white, female, disabled, or gay is allowed to break the law because we have anti-discrimination laws against those groups. The only difference ethnicity makes in this case would be if the landlord allowed non-Hispanic illegal aliens to stay on the property while kicking out Hispanic ones.
It makes sense to me.

Too; "Hispanic" ain't a race and not all of those people are Indian mixes with Spanish last names.
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Old 06-06-2016, 05:51 PM
 
Location: NJ
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Ask yourself, 'what would mexico do?"


then act recipricaly
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