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Old 06-25-2016, 09:30 AM
 
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yes, it is possible to secure the border, however, it's not only an illegal immigration issue, it's also a national security issue.
Nothing is 200% full proof, however, in today's world with modern technology, of course we can secure it.

I really don't care how much it costs, compared to what we're spending supporting these illegals....they go to emergency rooms and can't pay for their costs, so those costs are thrown on us.

they attend schools, but cannot afford taxes, so those costs are kickbacks on us.....not to mention welfare, and housing....

enough is enough....if they want to become legal citizens of the U.S. and help pay their fair share, I have no problem with that.

and I haven't even touched base on their ciminals and what it costs us to arrest them time after time, after time.....
If they want to become citizens then they need to return to their homelands and first apply to come here legally. They need to go to the back of the line and wait their turn within our annual quotas. There should be a penalty for coming here illegally in the first place like a ban for a certain length of time.
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Old 06-25-2016, 09:32 AM
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I hear Trump and others say "We need to secure to border!!!" but have we stopped to consider if this is even possible given the set of rules we have. It is one thing if we were to militarize it but considering it will never happen, does anyone really think that we can secure 2000 miles of desert?

Just a thought.
It is not only possible. It can be done and should be done and we need some guns at the border to shoot any who dare to cross it. The border could have been secured years ago but no one has the gumption to do so. You just have to let the violators know you mean business.
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Old 06-25-2016, 09:35 AM
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If they want to become citizens then they need to return to their homelands and first apply to come here legally. They need to go to the back of the line and wait their turn within our annual quotas. There should be a penalty for coming here illegally in the first place like a ban for a certain length of time.
And the penalty should be that they never are allowed to become citizens. We don't need lawbreakers in this country.
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Old 06-25-2016, 10:05 AM
 
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It remains quite impractical. There are hundreds of miles of water which is shared by Mexico. If you really think the Texans are going to give up access to that water so a wall can be built the conclusion would be that delusions are present. And note the Central Americans crossing the Rio Grande are making no attemp to escape into the US. They simply surrender to US customs or Immigration officers.

There are miles and miles of unfriendly terrain without significant human habitation. Supporting the concentration of border patrol officers to provide high coverage in such areas would be extremely expensive and likely to have a high human toll. Guarding emptiness for multiple years inevitably leads to problems.

With respect to smuggling of goods it is unlikely that any of this will work. Over and under will dominate.
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Old 06-25-2016, 04:00 PM
 
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And the penalty should be that they never are allowed to become citizens. We don't need lawbreakers in this country.

I don't disagree with you. That would also be an deterrant to those thinking of coming here illegally and thinking that someday they will be able to become citizens.
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Old 06-25-2016, 05:14 PM
 
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And the penalty should be that they never are allowed to become citizens. We don't need lawbreakers in this country.
lawbreakers have lead this land into one of lawlessness......

including our politicians....it's about time they start doing what is right....instead of pacifying special interest groups for votes.
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Old 06-26-2016, 11:45 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Illegals send tens of billions of dollars back to Mexico each year.. that money no longer is circulating in our economy. No wonder we are in a recession and can't get out. Not enough of Americans working keeping the money here.
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Old 06-27-2016, 06:20 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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We would be better off spending the money to cure the problems in countries like Guatemala, Honduras, El Salvador and Nicaragua. It's the poor conditions, crime, poverty that are driving them North.
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Old 06-27-2016, 08:09 AM
 
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We would be better off spending the money to cure the problems in countries like Guatemala, Honduras, El Salvador and Nicaragua. It's the poor conditions, crime, poverty that are driving them North.
Uh; let LatAm take care of its own, here. Too; this'd be a good time for the white Hispanics of LatAmto drop some of their racism against darker skin people instead of "helping" their kind go to the US illegally.
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Old 06-27-2016, 08:21 AM
 
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We would be better off spending the money to cure the problems in countries like Guatemala, Honduras, El Salvador and Nicaragua. It's the poor conditions, crime, poverty that are driving them North.

Opposed to spending money to do what? Illegal aliens are already here we need to do something to get rid of them first and secure our border. We already send billions to those countries and what good does it do?
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