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Old 02-17-2008, 07:42 PM
 
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I agree, but it'll never happen. I do believe that Ahnold would like to do something about it but the latino presence is too strong and it's going to take someone stronger than the govenator to put their foot down. Especially, since there are a lot of legal immigrants here who would vote him out of office if he even thinks about it. Remember, CA is majority Latino. You're right though, I'm really respecting the government of AZ for protecting its citizens.
Thanks to amnesty-freebe..
remember this,,, those NOW legal hispanics via amnesty..
were ALL once illegal criminals themselves.. and many still
have relatives in mexico, and many harbor illegal relatives
as well. Not only does mexico give them a map on how to
sneak over here.. they have many (once illegal) amnesty
relatives to help them after they get here. This is a huge
reason why California is decaying.. sooner or later all the
real Americans will have moved out of Cali-exico...
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Old 02-18-2008, 12:05 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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Like what the Federal government did two generations ago overriding 'states rights' pertaining to the old Jim Crow laws--------California may be forced to close/lock the door towards illegals and their enablers.

Yes; the US government is 'pro illegal immigrant', just that things are changing faster and faster in the other direction
It is not going to happen anytime soon. There are not enough Americans who are outraged by illegal immigration to force the Federal government to do anything. Right now, the government is doing as little as possible about this problem because there's not enough Americans forcing the politicians hands. Illegal immigration is only a sidenote in the Presidental elections. I believe the changes will have to be made on a state level like what Arizona is doing. Which means that all of the border states (California, Texas etc.) will continue to have a huge illegal immigration population. As long as they can vote, they have power. Since majority rules, these states will continue to look the other way.

Until there's more outrage, I'm afraid I will continue to live in "MexiCali".
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Old 02-18-2008, 04:32 PM
 
Location: California
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Thanks to amnesty-freebe..
remember this,,, those NOW legal hispanics via amnesty..
were ALL once illegal criminals themselves.. and many still
have relatives in mexico, and many harbor illegal relatives
as well. Not only does mexico give them a map on how to
sneak over here.. they have many (once illegal) amnesty
relatives to help them after they get here. This is a huge
reason why California is decaying.. sooner or later all the
real Americans will have moved out of Cali-exico...
At a way to label all Hispanics Mexicans. And I believe the correct term would be Mexifornia. The entire U.S is becoming Mexified, by the year 2050 1/4 of our population will be of Latin American decent-- not just Mexicans.
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Old 02-18-2008, 04:34 PM
 
Location: California
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It is not going to happen anytime soon. There are not enough Americans who are outraged by illegal immigration to force the Federal government to do anything. Right now, the government is doing as little as possible about this problem because there's not enough Americans forcing the politicians hands. Illegal immigration is only a sidenote in the Presidental elections. I believe the changes will have to be made on a state level like what Arizona is doing. Which means that all of the border states (California, Texas etc.) will continue to have a huge illegal immigration population. As long as they can vote, they have power. Since majority rules, these states will continue to look the other way.

Until there's more outrage, I'm afraid I will continue to live in "MexiCali".
There is already a border town named Mexicali . When the people start getting angry at immigration, the government sends in ICE to give the people a bone to chew on. They get pissed again and another bone is thrown.
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Old 02-18-2008, 04:38 PM
 
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Thanks to amnesty-freebe..
remember this,,, those NOW legal hispanics via amnesty..
were ALL once illegal criminals themselves.. and many still
have relatives in mexico, and many harbor illegal relatives
as well. Not only does mexico give them a map on how to
sneak over here.. they have many (once illegal) amnesty
relatives to help them after they get here. This is a huge
reason why California is decaying.. sooner or later all the
real Americans will have moved out of Cali-exico...
Why do you hate hispanics soo much:? How the hell do you know legal hispanics were all once illegal criminals? I wonder how many posters on your side of the argument will condemn this statement.
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Old 02-18-2008, 06:23 PM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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At a way to label all Hispanics Mexicans. And I believe the correct term would be Mexifornia. The entire U.S is becoming Mexified, by the year 2050 1/4 of our population will be of Latin American decent-- not just Mexicans.
Yes and no.

Remember that 'Hispanic' is a political term only.

If Maria Arredondo (Norway) and Jose Gonzalez (Sweden) were to legally immigrate to the USA and have a child------said kid would not be Hispanic in any way, shape or form.

BTW: both people are real.
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Old 02-18-2008, 07:28 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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I wonder how many posters on your side of the argument will condemn this statement.
As much as I overlook a lot of the ranting from the 'give 'em all amnesty' crowd, I also overlook a lot of the ranting from the 'ship 'em all back home' crowd. It seems I'm an equal opportunity ignorer.

I will state for the record that there are times that AB's posts do seem to be focused on a single nationality when the problem actually comes from an entire hemisphere, but then again the majority of that entire problem does stem from that single nationality. At times I can understand why making that distinction can be a bit difficult.

Hell, I wouldn't know the difference between a Mexican, a Honduran or a Salvadoran at first glance, would you?
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Old 02-18-2008, 08:31 PM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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As much as I overlook a lot of the ranting from the 'give 'em all amnesty' crowd, I also overlook a lot of the ranting from the 'ship 'em all back home' crowd. It seems I'm an equal opportunity ignorer.

I will state for the record that there are times that AB's posts do seem to be focused on a single nationality when the problem actually comes from an entire hemisphere, but then again the majority of that entire problem does stem from that single nationality. At times I can understand why making that distinction can be a bit difficult.

Hell, I wouldn't know the difference between a Mexican, a Honduran or a Salvadoran at first glance, would you?
I catch your drift; that stated, I sometimes confuse Mestizos with dark skinned Italians and Arabs (both Anglo groups, legally speaking) as well as Navajos and other dark complected Indian tribes.
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Old 02-18-2008, 11:19 PM
 
Location: California
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Yes and no.

Remember that 'Hispanic' is a political term only.

If Maria Arredondo (Norway) and Jose Gonzalez (Sweden) were to legally immigrate to the USA and have a child------said kid would not be Hispanic in any way, shape or form.

BTW: both people are real.
Hispanic is someone of Latin American decent am I wrong?
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Old 02-19-2008, 12:36 AM
 
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I think the University was way out of line to fund illegal immigration to begin with:. I mean why not fund pot smoking on campus too at least some Americans would get some benefit out of it (laugh out loud). Seriously, how can Arizona crack down on illegal immigration when our educational institutions are aiding and abetting criminals from preschool to college? If there is any place our laws should be carried out, it is in our educational institutions. Especially at the university level. ASU should use their resources to educate lawful citizens. It looks like the university is taking a step in the right direction for a change. Now if they would just lower in state tuition, I am sure many of us would really cheer
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