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Old 08-29-2008, 02:47 PM
 
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That's because you are smart and not so desperate that you were looking for love in all the wrong places. A lot of these "exotic beauties" are very cunning "playas" who have honed their skills of deception to perfection. I have read posts on certain message boards where they LTAO after getting their citizenship from those who they deem as "stupid desperate Americans" and moving on with their newly found and much enjoyed American lives. Some have even gone so far as to laugh about how horrible it was sleeping with them and baring their American children, while proclaiming that the child support and citizenship made it well worth it.
You get stories like that from mail-order brides from the Phillipenes and Russia
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Old 12-18-2008, 07:42 PM
 
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You do realize many illegal aliens marry U.S. citizens for the sole purpose of gaining citizenship, don't you? No love is involved. Should automatic amnesty also be granted to these deceitful wretches? I hope for your sake you have not been an unwitting participant in this widespread scam.

BTW, I married an immigrant also. However, we waited until after he became a legal citizen.
This is a typical response to confront people's argument that us immigration separates husbands and wives. Your saying that because of those handful of people abuse the system, everyone should be penalized and it's ok for this.
This is the same thing as saying lets drop the nuclear bomb on afghanistan if there are a few select terrorists there, who cares about the women, babies, mothers, brothers, fathers, sisters, daughters and all the innocent people. (and i've heard people say this on talk radio) What if you were living there?
This type of ideology never suffices to be justified.
To live in a free world you must not let those perpetrators stop living our lives or else you they will be winning.
Americans deserve to live the best lives that they can possibly live, and Americans deserve to live with their wives, wherever they may be from. It is a born right for every American. Immigration does have a problem. Humans live only for a period of time, no one lives forever. Immigration must not delay length of time for a husband and wife to be together. Life is too short for paperwork over an immediate family's unity.. It's time immigration needs another round of reform.
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Old 12-18-2008, 07:47 PM
 
Location: Pa
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This is a typical response to confront people's argument that us immigration separates husbands and wives. Your saying that because of those handful of people abuse the system, everyone should be penalized and it's ok for this.
This is the same thing as saying lets drop the nuclear bomb on afghanistan if there are a few select terrorists there, who cares about the women, babies, mothers, brothers, fathers, sisters, daughters and all the innocent people. (and i've heard people say this on talk radio) What if you were living there?
This type of ideology never suffices to be justified.
To live in a free world you must not let those perpetrators stop living our lives or else you they will be winning.
Americans deserve to live the best lives that they can possibly live, and Americans deserve to live with their wives, wherever they may be from. It is a born right for every American. Immigration does have a problem. Humans live only for a period of time, no one lives forever. Immigration must not delay length of time for a husband and wife to be together. Life is too short for paperwork over an immediate family's unity.. It's time immigration needs another round of reform.
I am married to an immigrant and we keep up with the paper work. Its not difficult.
In this case the couple in question had an easy way to prevent the deportation.... The illegal return to country of origin and submit the application..... Ordeal prevented.
Or it can be done from within the country but has its risks. They chose poorly. This is called accountability.
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Old 12-18-2008, 08:23 PM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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This is a typical response to confront people's argument that us immigration separates husbands and wives. Your saying that because of those handful of people abuse the system, everyone should be penalized and it's ok for this.
This is the same thing as saying lets drop the nuclear bomb on afghanistan if there are a few select terrorists there, who cares about the women, babies, mothers, brothers, fathers, sisters, daughters and all the innocent people. (and i've heard people say this on talk radio) What if you were living there?
This type of ideology never suffices to be justified.
To live in a free world you must not let those perpetrators stop living our lives or else you they will be winning.
Americans deserve to live the best lives that they can possibly live, and Americans deserve to live with their wives, wherever they may be from. It is a born right for every American. Immigration does have a problem. Humans live only for a period of time, no one lives forever. Immigration must not delay length of time for a husband and wife to be together. Life is too short for paperwork over an immediate family's unity.. It's time immigration needs another round of reform.
The husband can go live in his wife's country.

If you do not like our laws and rules..............then move elsewhere.
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Old 12-18-2008, 11:44 PM
 
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What if the whomever of my choice is already in the country illegally? In that case, the law leaves absolutely no opportunity for me to live with the whomever in America.



Something tells me this discussion will not be very productive
Then go live with whomever in their country. If you truly love that person, it wouldn't be an impossibility at all. When "love" can only happen in the USA, then it's not love but something else.

There is a legal process in place and do many people have managed to discover it. We don't need people breaking the laws and then thinking that they must be accomodated.
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Old 12-19-2008, 05:03 AM
 
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The husband can go live in his wife's country.

If you do not like our laws and rules..............then move elsewhere.
This is my country. And Americans have rights. If you do not respect our own rights, maybe yours need to be striped
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Old 12-19-2008, 08:39 AM
 
Location: San Diego North County
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The woman came to this country illegally. She broke the law. She should have thought about the consequences before she chose to enter this country in direct violation of sovereign U.S. law.

This isn't about diversity. It is about the rule of law. No society functions without it. We cannot have one set of laws for a segment of our population, while allowing another segment to to flaunt the law.

Whatever happened to personal responsibility? Why should people who flagrantly scoff at the laws of this country be given a free ride? People screw up, they know they screw up, yet they want to blame everybody and his mother's brother for the subsequent repercussions of THEIR own actions.

We all make choices, for better or for worse, every day of our lives. This woman made a conscious choice to enter the country illegally and now she has to pay the piper. So sorry for her old bad luck if she is unhappy with the consequences of her own actions.

By the way, living happily ever after with the mate of your choice IS NOT a "born right for every American." If it were, I'd be living the fairy tale with Viggo Mortensen.
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Old 12-19-2008, 09:36 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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The woman came to this country illegally. She broke the law. She should have thought about the consequences before she chose to enter this country in direct violation of sovereign U.S. law.

This isn't about diversity. It is about the rule of law. No society functions without it. We cannot have one set of laws for a segment of our population, while allowing another segment to to flaunt the law.

Whatever happened to personal responsibility? Why should people who flagrantly scoff at the laws of this country be given a free ride? People screw up, they know they screw up, yet they want to blame everybody and his mother's brother for the subsequent repercussions of THEIR own actions.

We all make choices, for better or for worse, every day of our lives. This woman made a conscious choice to enter the country illegally and now she has to pay the piper. So sorry for her old bad luck if she is unhappy with the consequences of her own actions.

By the way, living happily ever after with the mate of your choice IS NOT a "born right for every American." If it were, I'd be living the fairy tale with Viggo Mortensen.
Thank you for another excellent post! Sadly, some have an agenda that conflicts with truth and logic.
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Old 12-19-2008, 11:17 AM
 
Location: Missouri
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No immigration law did anything to anyone. They are using it as an excuse and not a very good one at that.
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Old 12-19-2008, 11:46 AM
 
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The woman came to this country illegally. She broke the law. She should have thought about the consequences before she chose to enter this country in direct violation of sovereign U.S. law.

This isn't about diversity. It is about the rule of law. No society functions without it. We cannot have one set of laws for a segment of our population, while allowing another segment to to flaunt the law.

Whatever happened to personal responsibility? Why should people who flagrantly scoff at the laws of this country be given a free ride? People screw up, they know they screw up, yet they want to blame everybody and his mother's brother for the subsequent repercussions of THEIR own actions.

We all make choices, for better or for worse, every day of our lives. This woman made a conscious choice to enter the country illegally and now she has to pay the piper. So sorry for her old bad luck if she is unhappy with the consequences of her own actions.

By the way, living happily ever after with the mate of your choice IS NOT a "born right for every American." If it were, I'd be living the fairy tale with Viggo Mortensen.
um,
It is a born right for every American to live with their spouses needless to explain. wheeew, some people
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