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Old 07-02-2016, 12:11 PM
 
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Why would they obey a deportation order when they don't obey our immigration laws to begin with? That's why when I hear the argument of how law-abiding these illegals are, and how they are not responsible for a large percentage of the crime committed in the US it baffles me.

The pro-amnesty/open border folks can spin it all they want - Illegal Aliens broke the law coming into this country illegally -and to me, that makes them criminals.

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Old 07-02-2016, 01:51 PM
 
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Why would they obey a deportation order when they don't obey our immigration laws to begin with? That's why when I hear the argument of how law-abiding these illegals are, and how they are not responsible for a large percentage of the crime committed in the US it baffles me.

The pro-amnesty/open border folks can spin it all they want - Illegal Aliens broke the law coming into this country illegally -and to me, that makes them criminals.

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Then a hard core round up by all agencies is required to purge these people out and by the way. Take all their property to pay for it. (Cars Homes, auction off any business, freeze bank assets. etc.....)
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Old 07-02-2016, 06:14 PM
 
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Then a hard core round up by all agencies is required to purge these people out and by the way. Take all their property to pay for it. (Cars Homes, auction off any business, freeze bank assets. etc.....)
All you got to do is pay for it. Talk to your congressman - 20 or 30 billion a year and you could run a meqningful program against the illegals.

In the interim check around a bit and you may find out that the actions of illegals are illegal but may well be moral and ethical. Sometimes you do the least evil thing.
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Old 07-02-2016, 07:12 PM
 
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All you got to do is pay for it. Talk to your congressman - 20 or 30 billion a year and you could run a meqningful program against the illegals.

In the interim check around a bit and you may find out that the actions of illegals are illegal but may well be moral and ethical. Sometimes you do the least evil thing.
Then it's time to open up detention camps and lock their butts up till their countries take their citizens back.
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Old 07-02-2016, 07:19 PM
 
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Then it's time to open up detention camps and lock their butts up till their countries take their citizens back.
You need to listen more.

Jusgt another 30 or 40 billion in expenditures and you can have your detention camps. Clearly one of the things required for large scale deportations.

Why don't you work on funding before you waste tlme on the tactics?
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Old 07-03-2016, 07:02 AM
 
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Let's see $20 or 30 billon a year (assuming that's a viable number) compared to the $113 billon a year that they are costing us by not enforcing our immigration laws with those costs rising with the continued flow.....what to do, what to do?
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Old 07-03-2016, 10:03 AM
 
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Let's see $20 or 30 billon a year (assuming that's a viable number) compared to the $113 billon a year that they are costing us by not enforcing our immigration laws with those costs rising with the continued flow.....what to do, what to do?

The 113 Billion is nonsense money. Fixed versus variable expense and includes major sums from the legal children of the aliens.

But whatever savings you get is only after you spend large sums for a number of years to reduce the illegal population. So pay the Billions for 5 or 10 years then you see whatever paltry savings you will get. And you will have the ongoing piece of the cost likely far exceeding any savings.
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Old 07-03-2016, 11:14 AM
 
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The 113 Billion is nonsense money. Fixed versus variable expense and includes major sums from the legal children of the aliens.

But whatever savings you get is only after you spend large sums for a number of years to reduce the illegal population. So pay the Billions for 5 or 10 years then you see whatever paltry savings you will get. And you will have the ongoing piece of the cost likely far exceeding any savings.
Def time to see IF your opinion is right, or not.
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Old 07-03-2016, 01:17 PM
 
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We could put an end to these so-called citizen children draining our tax coffers by ending illegal immigration itself by securing our border and enforcing the laws on the books. If they are decent parents when deported they'd take their minor tax draining kids with them.


There are a lot more costs involved with the $113 billion a year that's not attributed to their so-called citizen kids also. There is no way that enforcing our immigration laws would exceed the costs incurred by them being here with more coming.
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Old 07-03-2016, 01:42 PM
 
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We could put an end to these so-called citizen children draining our tax coffers by ending illegal immigration itself by securing our border and enforcing the laws on the books. If they are decent parents when deported they'd take their minor tax draining kids with them.


There are a lot more costs involved with the $113 billion a year that's not attributed to their so-called citizen kids also. There is no way that enforcing our immigration laws would exceed the costs incurred by them being here with more coming.
You still need laws that you have no chance of getting. You still need huge appropriations you have no chance of getting. Regardless of the next President there is no chance of it happening.

You are simply ignoring the obvious and clear. Reality is not intruding into your views.
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