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Old 08-05-2016, 02:56 AM
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I watched the RNC last week fully and I'm watchig the DNC fully this week.

A loud mouth cousin brought up a point I never thought about....why is harsh illegal immigration reform seen as the US being all evil and big and bad when almost every other country in the world has similar views?

I as a young woman, can just get pregnant, hop on a plane and land in some European country and claim they can't deport me back to the US because I have a child that was born on their soil? I know other countries don't have the 14th amendment like we do but do you get what I'm saying?

Other countries are none too kind on people when they discover them illegally living in their country and boot them fast, fine them, etc. Overstaying visas, etc.

YET when someone in the US suggests doing this they're the axis of evil?


I couldn't go to the UK illegally and go to college yet in the US that's a possibility and when someone says that shouldn't happen why are they wrong? Are our allies the scum of the earth for doing it? No. Yet why are we?
Because Hillary Clinton is running for president saying we are. We used to have law and order too. She is inviting every piece of scum on earth to come here and camp out while we feed, clothe, and house them and their anchor children while our vets go without. Birds of a feather fly together. Scum wants to be with scum.
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Old 08-05-2016, 06:43 AM
 
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Because the U.S. is where most potential immigrants want to come and people want to bend the rules to make it easier. The U.S. immigration system is very flexible and giving already because many come here on family-based visas. If the immigrant is an immediate family member, it's not counted toward the 480,000 cap on family-based visas in a year; meaning, there are no limits on visas for immediate relatives.

This family chain migration needs to stop. Of course it's not an illegal immigration problem though.
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Old 08-13-2016, 07:16 PM
 
Location: Tulare County, Ca
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Maybe we should just adopt Mexico's rules for residency:

Some parts of the new immigration law will affect Americans who plan to obtain Mexican visas to retire and live in Mexico. More specifically, Mexico has changed the income requirements for pensioners wanting to live there.
The law changes the types of visas. The new visas names are:
  • Visitante (visitor), formerly called FMM.
  • Residente Temporal (temporary resident), formerly called FM-3 and FM-2.
  • Residente Permanente (permanent resident), formally called Immigrado.
Residente Temporal applications for retirees and pensioners. Applicants must submit documents proving they meet one of the following requirements:
  1. Original and copy of proof of investments or bank accounts with average monthly balance equivalent to 20,000 days of the minimum wage in the Federal District during the last twelve months, or
  2. Original and copies of documents showing the applicant has monthly employment or unencumbered pension income greater than 400 days of the minimum wage in the Federal District, for the past six months.
The legal minimum daily wage in the Federal District in 2012 is 62.33 pesos, so 400 times that is 24,932 pesos, or $1,890 dollars at today's exchange rate of 13.19 pesos to the dollar. This amount is increased by 50% for each dependent. So, a married couple applying for the new Residente Temporal visa are required to have a minimum monthly income of $2,835.


20,000 days minimum wage is 1,246,600 pesos, or $94,500 dollars.


An applicant for Residente Permanente must show either the same 20,000 days minimum wage in investments or a monthly employment or pension income of 500 times the minimum wage. That would be $2,365 dollars per month of income. A married couple would require $3,548 per month of income.
Prior to this change, an applicant for an FM-3 was required to demonstrate a monthly income of 250 times the minimum daily wage and an applicant for an FM-2 was required to have 400 times the minimum wage. In other words, the new regulations have increased the income requirement for a temporary resident visa by 60%, and a permanent resident visa has increased by 25%.



The application fees for the visas have also increased. A Residente Temporal visa now costs 3,130 pesos ($237) for a single year, whereas prior to the change, the costs were 1,455 pesos ($110) for the FM-3 and 2,282 pesos ($173) for the FM-2.


The average US social security benefit paid in 2012 was $1,230 per month. As such, the average pensioner in the US would not qualify for a temporary resident visa in Mexico without another source of income.
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Old 08-15-2016, 05:02 AM
 
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Why is controlling immigration only considered "wrong" in the United States, but not in other countries?

Answer: White people in the U.S. hate themselves -- so they want to be replaced by brown people from other countries.
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Old 08-16-2016, 07:57 PM
 
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Some people here want to turn illegal immigration into a civil rights movement in reality illegal immigration has nothing to do with civil rights. A number of years ago in AZ we had illegal's marching downtown Phoenix protesting that they should have a voice. The promoters were actually not even local to AZ they were out of California extreme liberals who were trying to make a name for themselves.
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