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Old 08-23-2016, 07:18 PM
 
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It doesn't solve the problem at all.

The problem with massive deportation is the costs and moral effects on our society.

No one wants to see video or pictures of families torn apart and being taken off in handcuffs.

We have to accept that a wall being built will stop the problem from here on out. They should have done it a long time ago but missed the chance.

Compromise is important here especially if you want Trump to be POTUS.
Per the bolded --- No one is stopping illegals from taking their anchor babies with them if they get deported. In fact, that's what any decent parent would do. Everyday Americans go to jail and get "torn apart" from their families and "taken off in handcuffs". They aren't allowed to bring their kids to jail with them.

When illegals get put in deportation proceedings, they whine and cry about their families, which is very manipulative. They knew darn well that they had no business being here, let alone having kids. So, it's on them if they get caught and deported.
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Old 08-23-2016, 07:29 PM
 
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Well since illegal deportation disproportional affect latinos, I would give credence to their perception and statistics more.

As Deportations Rise to Record Levels, Most Latinos Oppose Obama

Yeah right, he is half white. Do you think he would have been half white in the 50s, 60s, 70's, 80's...when did it change?
This is 2016, NOT 1986 and so on. Sheesh!
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Old 08-23-2016, 07:31 PM
 
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It doesn't solve the problem at all.

The problem with massive deportation is the costs and moral effects on our society.

No one wants to see video or pictures of families torn apart and being taken off in handcuffs.

We have to accept that a wall being built will stop the problem from here on out. They should have done it a long time ago but missed the chance.

Compromise is important here especially if you want Trump to be POTUS.
I DON'T care IF a family gets busted up cause some members committed crimes and got caught. Period.
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Old 08-23-2016, 07:32 PM
 
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Per the bolded --- No one is stopping illegals from taking their anchor babies with them if they get deported. In fact, that's what any decent parent would do. Everyday Americans go to jail and get "torn apart" from their families and "taken off in handcuffs". They aren't allowed to bring their kids to jail with them.

When illegals get put in deportation proceedings, they whine and cry about their families, which is very manipulative. They knew darn well that they had no business being here, let alone having kids. So, it's on them if they get caught and deported.

Nailed it! It will fall on deaf ears though to those who are sympathizers to illegal aliens.
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Old 08-23-2016, 07:35 PM
 
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Trump again iterated that Obama has deported more illegal aliens and he intends to do the same as Obama and Bush. This was on O' Reilly last night.

Sounds like a huge flip- flop to me.

I'm not quite understanding you here. He said he would continue to deport illegal aliens just as Bush and Obama did so how is that flip flopping?
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Old 08-23-2016, 07:41 PM
 
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It doesn't solve the problem at all.

The problem with massive deportation is the costs and moral effects on our society.

No one wants to see video or pictures of families torn apart and being taken off in handcuffs.

We have to accept that a wall being built will stop the problem from here on out. They should have done it a long time ago but missed the chance.

Compromise is important here especially if you want Trump to be POTUS.

Mass deportations isn't going to happen. Just enforce the laws on the books and remove all of the incentives for them to remain here. Not doing so is what is costly. Moral affects on our country? It's not immoral to enforce our immigration laws. It is not too late to build the 700 mile wall on the most porous areas of our southern border to deter more illegal immigration.


What do you see as compromise? What does Trump or any other politician who is sworn to uphold our laws stand to gain by not doing so? FYI, most Americans want that!
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Old 08-23-2016, 07:44 PM
 
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Even if there were mass deportations Eisenhower did it and I don't recall any outrage over it or him getting a bad rap for doing so.
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Old 08-23-2016, 08:21 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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What did he flip flop on again?

Because I know his campaign manager has said massive deportation is still up in the air. So that was one possible flip. Did they flip back again and say the mass deportations are on again?
Blink and the story changes.

Yesterday he told O' Riley he was going to do what Obama and Bush have done.

Today campaign manager said he has not talked about mass deportation in awhile.

Hannity asked what he would do about law abiding illegals and children. Trump said there certainly can be a softening to not hurt people.

And yeah he did a major flip- flop on the fundamental core issue of his primary campaign.

Things are starting to look like Immigration Reform" , the bipartisan Senate Bill.

That bill called for a 700 mile wall, doubling border patrol, huge investment in electronic surveilience and e- Verify and a pathway to citizenship.

The House declined to vote on it - declined to be held accountable by their constituents for their vote.

The House declined to offer an alternative.

Instead, they kicked the can.
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Old 08-23-2016, 08:36 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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This would also be another great option other than massive deportation.

Build the wall and institute mandatory E-Verify. I will vote for that.
Both were a part of the bipartisan Senate bill for Immigration Reform passed by the Senate in 2013.

This is the bipartisan Sensate bill the House refused to vote on to protect their members from being held accountable for their vote.
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Old 08-23-2016, 08:41 PM
 
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It doesn't solve the problem at all.

The problem with massive deportation is the costs and moral effects on our society.

No one wants to see video or pictures of families torn apart and being taken off in handcuffs.

We have to accept that a wall being built will stop the problem from here on out. They should have done it a long time ago but missed the chance.

Compromise is important here especially if you want Trump to be POTUS.
No shortage of Trump's base and posters to this forum who were chomping at the bit for mass deportation.

So long as US small business and individuals continue to employ undocumented workers, they will find a way.

70 million people visit the US each year.
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