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Old 09-08-2016, 02:10 PM
 
Location: Kansas
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Originally Posted by grampaTom View Post
The "Iron curtain" wasn't iron, and wasn't a curtain. A "wall" is a concept. It can be towers with cameras in places, chain link fence in places AND a concrete wall in other places. I suppose it could even consist of drones in certain locales.
Depends on the geography and the accessibility
Thank you for educating those that only read one liners on the news websites!

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Originally Posted by TKO View Post
Exactly how it is today. It should be beefed up and improved upon. But you'll never, ever be able to stop them all when the means to cross the border are also the means necessary to smuggle billions and billions of dollars worth of drugs. And people are smart, when one solution is found they'll find another vulnerability. I hope you're not suggesting we shoot them like the Russkies did?

The intelligent and cost effective way to deal with the illegal immigration problem is to punish employers very, very harshly so the that the job market dries up and you'll see an exodus second only to Moses'.

A contingent of the right just doesn't seem to like solutions that don't have wide scale punishment of poor people involved. (not aimed at you)
Don't forget to remove ALL incentives. That is one of the biggest issues. No job, no welfare, no walk because you are an illegal alien when you commit a crime, no Section 8 housing just because you chose to have kids that we have to support............

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Many politicians on the left and the right don't want e-verify or punishing the employers who hire illegal aliens however most regular Americans on the right do and that's just a fact.
We have too many people that don't realize what illegal immigration is doing to our country and have some sort of mental block that keeps them from being educated about it.

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In many cases these employers are hiring Mexican workers because either American workers wont do the job or they are asking for too much money,fining the living crap out of these employers will just put them out of business thus depriving those who are legal employees out of a job and depriving the economic infrastructure of whatever the company produces.
With todays technology fake ids can be as real as the real thing,very hard for an employer to determine whether an employees id is fake or real.
Which brings up the question is every Mexican in the USA going to be subjected to their id being scrutinized for authenticity?
I tell you what, if someone else would have picked up our medical bills and paid to raise our kids, we could have worked for less too not to mention that we need more money to pay the taxes, $113 billion per year for the employer's using the cheap labor.

There is already an e-verify system in place: https://www.uscis.gov/e-verify/employers

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Originally Posted by Silver-Fox View Post
This is a joke! The video favors having no Border laws. The problem now, is the Officers and Agents are not enforcing the law, the border is wide open. There is no Border enforcement. There may be many Agents and very good technology, but the law is not being enforced!
It is necessary to overrun the country with illegal aliens as part of moving toward globalism. It is getting us used to a lower standard of living as we move toward the one world government. Obama has been trying to break us for almost 8 years now, and with any luck Hillary is not elected to continue this. I still am determined to believe that we are stronger and smarter than the politicians think and we shall overcome!

People need to put ALL of their elected officials on notice. I went to the primary to vote against all the incumbents here.
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Old 09-14-2016, 09:26 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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Originally Posted by grampaTom View Post
The "Iron curtain" wasn't iron, and wasn't a curtain. A "wall" is a concept. It can be towers with cameras in places, chain link fence in places AND a concrete wall in other places. I suppose it could even consist of drones in certain locales.
Depends on the geography and the accessibility
^ This

The only physical barrier that needs put into place is on the Mexican side of large urban centers. We don't need a wall out if the middle of the desert where you can see miles in any direction. If they want to die in the desert let em.
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Old 09-14-2016, 11:33 AM
 
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^ This

The only physical barrier that needs put into place is on the Mexican side of large urban centers. We don't need a wall out if the middle of the desert where you can see miles in any direction. If they want to die in the desert let em.

If the 700 mile wall on the most porous areas of our border were built and which is already approved by congress they would be forced to cross in more dangerous areas. It would be a huge deterrent.
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Old 09-14-2016, 12:33 PM
 
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Doesn't matter what people on the border think. It matters what Americans, as a whole, think.

People who choose to live on the border have no more right to determining national policy than anyone else.
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Old 09-16-2016, 09:52 PM
 
Location: Phoenix
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Do they think a new wall is needed?



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1s9zndPQu04
Border Control Part 1 | Full Measure

Border Control Part 2 | Full Measure

Potential U.S. border patrol agents not passing the test | Full Measure
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Old 12-02-2016, 10:52 PM
 
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You must be a SUCKER if you think trump will build a huge wall. He just told people what they wanted to hear to get votes.
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Old 12-03-2016, 07:18 AM
 
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You must be a SUCKER if you think trump will build a huge wall. He just told people what they wanted to hear to get votes.

I guess we'll just have to wait and see, won't we? I'd be happy with him making sure that the 700 mile wall is built on the most porous areas of our border that was already approved by congress.
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